But they're not addressing how incredibly enormous the challenges are and the kinds of shifts like getting all of us out of cars, providing local foods that don't have to be shipped from thousands of miles away that need to happen," the CPE's Fernando Martí told the Guardian.
Kim says that while the climate crisis allows us to critique capitalism in a way that has not been possible for decades, he acknowledges that the work the Ella Baker Center is doing is within a constant-growth framework.
"While it's important in the radical left to have conversations about capitalism and powering down, that's not where we're starting out with green jobs," Kim told the CPE audience.
Mateo Nube, training director for the Movement Generation Justice and Ecology Project, suggested that both short- and long-term goals are important. "We need to build an infrastructure for the transition. We need to rebuild our food production systems in a way that actually takes care of everybody and is sustainable. From that vantage point, the idea of green jobs and a New Deal makes a lot of sense. But in that process, we have to incorporate an understanding that a constant-growth model is suicide."