Truce talks - Page 3

Police, party promoters, and politicians seek a detente in the War on Fun

Officer Larry Bertrand's aggressive tactics in cracking down on nightclubs and parties fueled a strong community backlash

Club owners and party promoters don't want to be blamed for street violence over which they have no control, and they have some political support for that stance. "Clubs don't create youth gun violence, society creates youth gun violence," Sup. Bevan Dufty proclaimed to the crowd at the Nightlife Safety Summit, drawing thunderous applause from the room.

"There is a street scene and a club scene, and they do intersect. But a lot of the violence occurs in the street scene," Carson said. "A lot of shootings that happen relate to people never inside the clubs. That's a conversation CMAC looks forward to having — to have a little more accurate discussion."

While he asserts that some nightclubs attract violence to the city from out of town, Crenshaw said he was pleased and surprised at the level of collaboration emerging between entertainment representatives and SFPD. "I got so much positive feedback from it [the Nightlife Safety Summit]. It was a bit overwhelming," he told us. "I think the industry itself is tired of being labeled as a pariah. They want to change their image."

Brit Hahn, owner of City Nights and SFClubs, agreed that working with district captains was in the best interest of any club looking to remain profitable. "When something bad happens at a nightclub anywhere in San Francisco, he said at the Nightlife Safety Summit, "it's bad for all of our businesses."


My neighborhood (apartments) in western soma was here both before and after 1906. The clubs are very very new comers. Kids from across the bridges and through the tunnels love to come and do things in the City they cannot do in their local communities. We want the club owners to join with us the neighborhoods and work with us to educate their clients that we deserve to live in peace. We no longer want our comments minimized or told we are making a "war on fun". We have had 4 deaths within 5 square blocks within the last 3 years. A club bouncer, a club worker, and then two kids who were at the clubs. If not for the clubs these people would be alive. You cannot sugar coat it.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 07, 2010 @ 7:13 am

I'll tell you what the problem is - it is those people who think they can drink and not have any consequences. If you drink water, the consequence is hydration, and if you drink beer at a club the consequence is possibly getting laid. That may not seem bad, of course. However, your wits will not be about you if you are intoxicated and you may get rapped by a fat chick who hasn't gotten any since 1999. These turn of the century behemoths have no conscience about who they rape. So let that be a warning to everyone, when these kindly peace officers are trying to help!

Posted by Guest on Jul. 07, 2010 @ 11:57 am

My buildings in San Francisco have been around, for many different uses, for many years. There has been thriving nightlife happening in San Francisco since even before the Gold Rush of 1849, long before anyone living in the city was alive. The current nightclubs in SF are descendants of the city's history as much as any existing building or resident can claim to be. A vibrant nightlife in San Francisco is part of its rich traditions. The current problems are rough patches that need to be smoothed out, without resorting to extremes like the recent harassment by Bertrand and Ott of established, well run venues like Great American Music Hall, Cafe Du Nord, DNA Lounge, and others.

There are some problem nightclubs, parties, and/or promoters who give a bad name to the others, just as in any other industry.

There are drunk drivers who cause deaths after drinking at home. If not for alcohol and automobiles those people would be alive. There are deaths due to boating accidents. If not for boats those people would be alive. There are deaths due to lung cancer from cigarettes. If not for tobacco those people would be alive. There are people who commit suicide by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. If not for that bridge those people would be alive.

It's not sugar coating to say that life is hazardous and that there are ways to make it safer.

Those problem clubs, parties, and/or promoters are the ones that need to be scutinized, in a FAIR manner, and held accountable for the problems that they cause. It's entirely possible to have a vibrant, SAFE, and profitable nightlife in San Francisco. None of these are mutually exclusive. Maximizing all of them together is what everyone should be working towards.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2010 @ 11:18 pm

(Edit: "My buildings," above, should read "Many buildings")

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2010 @ 11:19 pm

I am sick and tired of David Chiu and his disingenuous rant about "street crime is down but club violence is up", therefore "clubs need to be reined in". Chiu is running for DA or something, and Gavin is running for Lt. Governor and they want to boast how crime is down in SF. Guess what? Street assaults and gun violence are not down. Talk to any beat cop and he will tell you what's really happening on the street. Its getting pretty crazy out there and we are ALL victims of this-- neighbors, clubs, businesses, club security, police. Bravo to Bevin Dufty for having the cajones to tell the truth about youth violence.

Posted by Tommy Gunn on Jul. 12, 2010 @ 5:51 pm

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