What if the mayor lied?

Are we back to the bad old days? Ed Lee's potential perjury points to yes

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EDITORIAL The case Mayor Ed Lee is presenting to the Ethics Commission is no longer about whether Sheriff Ross Mirkarmi injured his wife, Eliana Lopez, or whether his actions were atrocious and unacceptable. Those facts are not in dispute — although Mirkarimi pled guilty to a less-serious misdemeanor, he has not denied that he grabbed Lopez's arm and squeezed hard enough to leave a bruise. Even his strongest defenders aren't condoning that or dismissing the seriousness of this incident of domestic violence.

Much of the evidence Lee has presented goes to different issues — for example, the allegation (so far, without any proof) that Mirkarimi sought to dissuade witnesses from coming forward .

And formally, the question Lee is raising is a larger one: Did Mirkarimi's action rise to the level of official misconduct — or, in the words of Lee's testimony, did his conduct "fall below the standard of decency, good faith, and right action that is impliedly required of all public officials?"

Now Lee is facing that same question. It's something the commission needs to address — not only because it goes to the heart of this particular case but because the public has a right to know if the mayor of San Francisco lied under oath on the witness stand.

In fact, now that two credible witnesses — one a city commissioner, the other a former supervisor — have made public statements that indicate Lee was dishonest in his testimony, the District Attorney's Office should open an investigation. Perjury is a felony crime — and while it's hard to prove, there are critical facts that are missing. The only witnesses who have direct (non hearsay) corroboration have been unwilling to discuss the matter in detail, and only the DA and Ethics have the ability to issue subpoenas and ask them the key questions under oath.

Lee testified that he hadn't discussed the case or his deliberations over filing charges with any member of the Board of Supervisors. But Building Inspection Commission member Debra Walker told reporters that her friend and ally, Sup. Christina Olague, had recounted having a conversation with the mayor on that topic right before the charges were filed. Olague denies that, but has declined further comment.

Then Lee testified that he never offered, or authorized anyone in his office to offer, a job to Mirkarimi in exchange for his resignation. Former Sup. Aaron Peskin says Lee ally Walter Wong approached him and asked him to convey exactly such an offer to the sheriff on behalf of the mayor. Peskin recalls the exact date, time and place of his meeting with Wong, and he mentioned the offer to Guardian reporters long before this trial began. Wong has declined to speak to reporters.

So at the very least, there are grounds for the commission members to allow Mirkarimi's lawyers to question Olague and Wong — and if either of them contradicts the mayor's sworn statement, it would raise serious doubts about Lee's credibility. And that's central to the official misconduct case: Mirkarimi's lawyers argue that the sheriff was never given due process and that the mayor never tried to learn Mirkarimi's side of the story. The mayor says Mirkarimi refused to tell that story. The commission vote could hinge on that dispute — and if Lee lied about other parts of his testimony, it would be fair to question everything he said. And if Lee can't hold himself to the standards of decency and good faith, the voters need to know that.

Comments

Jason Grant Garza here ... maybe the MAYOR should speak with Barry Bonds over his situation regarding PERJURY. Are the "OFFICIALS" going to be sooo diligent as they were with Barry? Are they also going to INVESTIGATE the BOMB SCARE with the same diligence? I know they prepared their case against (Ross) with such DUE DILIGENCE (investigated before charging, ha,ha,ha), provided SOUND LEGAL FOOTING (prior cases) and provide the same STANDARD?

Yes, Virginia ... in a PERFECT world ... where JUSTICE, HONOR and TRUTH apply, however, that is NOT here. Don't believe me ... go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com to see HOW the GAME is PLAYED.

There you will find a signed "Confession/Settlement Agreement" signed by the city dated 2007 for BREAKING FEDERAL LAW against me then leaving their INNOCENT VINDICATED VICTIM for DEAD. This was after TESTILYING in 2003 to have my case thrown out (C02-3485PJH) and applying scorched earth tactics and taking no prisoners (same as they are doing with ROSS.)

This confession was not out of the "KINDNESS" of the city attorney who left me for DEAD rather my continuing against ALL ODDS. I did not have an attorney like ROSS however, the difference will be the LARGE $$$$ CASH settlement that the city will offer ROSS naturally with the escape clause of admitting NOTHING ....

Yes JUSTICE for the RICH and JUST THIS for US. Go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com

Prediction:

Preliminary perfunctory investigations, no appeals, case closed.
Settle with ROSS no admission. Go after MAYOR (not) no reason ...
the case was settled no admission.

Investigate the BOMB SCARE ... repeat above.

Shall we wait to see if the same zeal and vigor at arriving at the TRUTH will be used against the MAYOR and the BOMB SCARE. I can show the approach USED after signing a "CONFESSION" admitting BREAKING the LAW and leaving its INNOCENT VINDICATED VICTIM for DEAD ... ha,ha,ha.

"Telling the TRUTH during times of UNIVERSAL DECEIT is a REVOLUTIONARY Act." George Orwell

So has all the COMMOTION, FALSE CONCERN, and DIRE CONSEQUENCE now ended over the MINISTRY of SUNSHINE (not working, providing harm, damages and delay ... see case # 11081 (How long does it take to get a HIPAA expert?) ... what about the "RULES and STANDARDS" changes at ETHICS to EXTRACT a POUND of FLESH from ROSS ...yes, another CRISIS and the MAYOR's problems will too pass ....

Ha,ha,ha.

I mean the MAYOR did take the OATH for the "WHOLE TRUTH" or did he hear the "HOLE" truth when he took the OATH?

Again, go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com to see the city provide EXPERT "TESTILYING" testimony ... what was the consequence of PERJURY?

Ha,ha,ha.

Please go to http://www.citireport.com/2012/05/mirkarimi%E2%80%99s-boo-boo/ to read more specifics ....

Posted by Jason Grant Garza on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 5:31 am

I'm hardly one to defend Ed Lee, but I think the reporting here hasn't been entirely accurate. The editorial reads: "Lee testified that he hadn't discussed the case or his deliberations over filing charges with any member of the Board of Supervisors."

I listened to the testimony and Lee was asked whether he discussed with a Supervisor whether to file charges -- not whether he had "discussed the case." There is a difference. I have a hard time believing Lee would have gone to Olague to get her counsel on whether to file charges. Unless he had that specific discussion, I don't think his testimony would be inaccurate. Maybe he had a general discussion about the RM situation, but that's not a discussion about whether to file charges.

And why is Debra Walker inserting herself into this? I thought she was friends with this Supervisor Olague person. Seems strange.

Posted by The Commish on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 7:20 am

Lee. Walker has lost every election she ever stood for but yearns for power, or at least her 15 minutes of adequacy.

With her bias on record, there is no reason to believe her, especially sicne she wasn't even present for the alleged non-conversation.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 7:55 am

for any alleged abusive actions between Ross and Eliana. Perhaps Ms. Madison was reliving something from her own past and adding lots of faux "literary" embellishment, all the while enjoying playing the role of the vilified feminist in public discourse.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 1:29 pm

She can testify to everything she personally saw and heard.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 2:07 pm

with the Ethics Commission issuing subpoenas to Walker, Olague, Peskin and Wong, so they can testify under oath, and the facts of the matter can be determined.

God forbid that the Ethics Commission deal with an alleged perjury by the man making the charges in this matter. IF they don't, they should re-title themselves .

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 1:23 pm

investigation that it is not charged with. But we already know what the players will say and, in most cases, it's hearsay anyway.

The longer the EC sits, the longer Ross has no job and no pay. That will suit the anti-Ross crowd perfectly.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 2:09 pm

I have no problem with them subpoenaing whomever they want. On the current record, I don't see the basis for the perjury charge that's being tossed around by people who don't understand what perjury means. If they want to look into it, let them.

I'd suspect the commision isn't going to subpoena Peskin or Walker, though. Those two don't have anything to say other than second or third-hand info. Maybe they'll subpoena Olague or Wong.

Posted by The Commish on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 2:20 pm

Jason Grant Garza here ... Again, go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com to see the city provide EXPERT "TESTILYING" testimony ... what was the consequence of PERJURY? The false testimony was in 2003 to have my case (C02-3485PJH) illegally thrown out and then in 2007 the city signed a confession/settlement agreement with the Office of Inspector General admitting fault and guilt for BREAKING FEDERAL LAW... why would they sign a confession ... go to the website ... oh, and now I have an arrest record (never having been arrested in my life - where I was strip searched, cavity searched and left nude in a cell overnight) for a CRIME they committed next to THE signed confession and LEFT for DEAD by the city. Any more questions?

Who looked into it? Where were the FEDS? Where are they now? All this talk about the city doing right ... here's the proof that the city will DO ALL TO WIN and when BUSTED not even be HUMANE, EXHIBIT CORRECT and RIGHT ACTION and CONDUCT, etc.

So before living in a should be, maybe be, what the law states world ... WAKE up this is what the REAL WORLD is. The city TAKES NO PRISONERS, uses scorched earth tactics and when BUSTED like the MAYOR ... it's an OUTRAGE for them to be QUESTIONED? See how the GAME is RIGGED and what the CONSEQUENCE is for their illegal actions and see what the CONSEQUENCE is for their INNOCENT VINDICATED VICTIM. If they did NOT have the INTEGRITY after signing a confession and busting with "TESTILYING" ... you believe they are going to have INTEGRITY here? How NAIVE.

Yes, the GAME PLAYING and proof is at http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com

Enjoy ...

So I was denied MEDICAL rights, Legal Rights, Human Rights, Civil Rights, etc...where is the CORRECT ACTION and MORAL IMPERATIVE for the city??? Oh, I forgot win at all costs and if something is done wrong ... we have the city attorney to defend ... no MORAL HAZARD here ... ha,ha,ha.

Speaking of MORALS and ETHICS ... when is the ETHICS Commission going to re-open all "OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT" cases sent by SUNSHINE if they are CORRECTING the RULES and STANDARDS to EXTRACT a POUND of FLESH from ROSS ... I have my Nurse Ratch case that was sent by the MINISTRY. See http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com or type my name into a google search engine to read and see how many years .....

Oh and today the MAYOR is outraged and saying ENOUGH is ENOUGH ... I agree ... I too am OUTRAGED ... take a number MAYOR ... ENOUGH is ENOUGH ... my confession, false arrest and LEFT for DEAD mutes ALL protestation from the city and MAYOR unless they can answer ... where was my DUE PROCESS? Thank GOD for KOPP for that ROSS will get DUE PROCESS ...and LOTS of $$$$ from the CITY.

Justice for the RICH and JUST THIS for US.

Live by the SWORD .. DIE by the SWORD ... the MAYOR's testimony was under OATH for PERJURY ... you know the "WHOLE TRUTH" and not "HOLED" truth.

Go Kopp Go Kopp, Go Kopp. Go Kopp.

Again go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com to see HOW the CITY PLAYS the LEGAL GAME and what CONSEQUENCE when they BREAK the LAW and commit PERJURY.

ENJOY .....

Oh and go to the part of the ETHICS? Commission here to to see the GAME on their own paperwork?

Another interesting question .... wasn't the executive director of Ethics (St. Croix) and several supervisors sent to ETHICS for "OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT" by the MINISTRY of SUNSHINE ... are those not DUE the same speed, diligence and concern that the RULES and STANDARD changes at ETHICS that was been done to EXTRACT a POUND of FLESH from ROSS ??? Are these VICTIMS (Complainants at SUNSHINE) NOT due the same as the MAYOR and City Attorney in FRONT of ETHICS? Ha,ha,ha. Oh, and ETHICS still has NOT informed me that they changed the RULES and STANDARDS and are NOW going to re-open my NURSE Ratch case since it is the ONLY ETHICAL THING to DO under the CIRCUMSTANCES ... yes, Virginia ... in a PERFECT WORLD. I still await ....

Posted by Jason Grant Garza on Jul. 12, 2012 @ 6:16 am

My understanding is that regardless of semantics, the mayor would be guilty of jury tampering if he discussed the case with supervisors, however you parse or describe his conversations.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 5:00 pm

They're just politicians voting on a political issue.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 11, 2012 @ 5:35 pm

What if the mayor DIDN'T lie, which is quite likely. It makes you wonder what Mirkarimi and his attorneys wouldn't do to get their sleazy client off the hook. As a Chinese-American, I see this as another slap in the face from the carpetbagger progressive community.

Posted by Wintston Wong on Jul. 13, 2012 @ 9:32 am

Assuming you discount unverifiable hearsay evidence from a known pro-Ross troublemaker which is repudiated by the two actual witnesses.

Nor did Lee have any motive not anything to gain from lying.

Nor is it relevant to whether Ross's violent and criminal spousal abuse makes him unfit to serve.

Ross and his few remaining supporters are clutching at straws.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 13, 2012 @ 9:47 am

Jason Grant Garza here ... dear Mr. Wong, please go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com to see where the city "TESTILYIED" and please tell me what was the penalty in case (C02-3485PJH) for the INNOCENT VINDICATED VICTIM? Did he have DUE PROCESS, was he made "WHOLE" or was he just LEFT for DEAD by the city and CITY ATTORNEY? My did the city have to sign a "Confession/Settlement Agreement" with the Office of Inspector General admitting fault and guilt for BREAKING FEDERAL LAW? Wasn't the case C02-3485PJH thrown out because of the EXPERT TESTILYING TESTIMONY in 2003 and the "Confession" signed in 2007? What year is it NOW ... has the city or city attorney (still the same one) shown, had or even thought of "CONTRITION?" No Mr. Wong that is NOT how the city PLAYS the LEGAL GAME ... go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com to see.

The IMPORTANT QUESTION is what if the MAYOR did LIE? What is the penalty of Perjury?

If it is ANYTHING like mine ... the city will JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT VICTIM ... a fate I would NOT even wish on you my dear Mr. Wong.

Let us use the precautionary principle ... what harm can come to the MAYOR since as per my case (C02-3485PJH) there is NO penalty for Perjury. (Check out a partial of my opposition papers on the website and for your information I submitted my federal court paperwork to the OFFICE of Inspector General and that was all they needed.)

No man is above the LAW ... oh, I forgot unless it is the MAYOR.

Posted by Jason Grant Garza on Jul. 14, 2012 @ 4:55 am

Jason Grant Garza here ... look above for the direct comment on July 11th ...

"Yes JUSTICE for the RICH and JUST THIS for US. Go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com

Prediction:

Preliminary perfunctory investigations, no appeals, case closed.
Settle with ROSS no admission. Go after MAYOR (not) no reason ...
the case was settled no admission.

Investigate the BOMB SCARE ... repeat above.

Shall we wait to see if the same zeal and vigor at arriving at the TRUTH will be used against the MAYOR and the BOMB SCARE. I can show the approach USED after signing a "CONFESSION" admitting BREAKING the LAW and leaving its INNOCENT VINDICATED VICTIM for DEAD ... ha,ha,ha."

So if you think the FBI or ANYONE cares to INVESTIGATE ... go to http://www.myownprivateguantanamo.com to see ALL the NON-EXISTENT investigations ... do you really believe with a signed "CONFESSION" I did not go to the CORRECT Agencies asking for INVESTIGATION .... Yes, Virginia ... Rigged is as Rigged Does.

But you heard it here .... "JUSTICE for the RICH and JUST THIS for us."

So today is the 23rd and it is PASSING .... per PLAN just awaiting the SEALING MOMENT ... another CRISES and this to will PASS and ALL will MAGICALLY forget.

"A NATION of FOOLS deserve what it receives."

Posted by Jason Grant Garza on Jul. 23, 2012 @ 5:46 am

Lunatic ^

Posted by marcos on Jul. 23, 2012 @ 9:01 am

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