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San Francisco did everything right. Now the feds are shutting down legal marijuana in town. And nobody can figure out what happened

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Medical marijuana supporters marched on the Federal Building on Aug. 1 to protest the recent crackdown.
PHOTO BY TIM DAW

"I'm very upset that we're losing two great medical marijuana dispensaries where patients could medicate on site," said David Goldman, a local ASA activist and member of the city's Medical Cannabis Task Force, noting how important that is for patients who live in apartments that ban smoking.

HopeNet and Vapor Room were some of the only dispensaries in town where smoking was allowed on site, because they were more than 1,000 feet from schools, playgrounds, or day care facilities, the city's standard. Bhatia said that's a very strict standard in a city as dense as San Francisco, which is why only four clubs ever met it.

Yet the feds saw things differently, ostensibly targeting HopeNet because a small private school opened two blocks away last year, and the Vapor Room because the feds didn't use the city's standard of being more than 1,000 feet from the playground at Duboce Park, instead deciding the dispensary was a community menace because it was a little under 1,000 feet from that dog-friendly park's nearest patch of grass.

LAST DAYS

Vapor Room founder Martin Olive was a bundle of complicated emotions on the club's last day in business (it will still operates as delivery-only, just like HopeNet, Medithrive, and a few other shuttered clubs have done). Initially, he didn't want to talk to us: "I'm trying to keep a lower profile because it's scary out there now."

But he slowly opened up and tried to describe the feeling of watching his proudest accomplishment so rapidly undone by the one-two punch of a letter from the merchant services company cutting off credit card access (just like every dispensary in the city, returning pot sales to a cash-only status) followed days later by Haag's shut-down letter.

"It's complicated emotions that I'm feeling -– let down, confused. At the end of the day, I don't understand why this is happening," Olive said. "It's a community tragedy, it really is."

Vapor Room was a welcoming gathering place for its members and a supporter of a variety of community events and causes.

"I've always treated this as if it were just a nice coffee house. I'm not an outlaw," Olive said. "I almost forgot I was breaking federal law. It was so normal, so legitimate."

In fact, some club owners say their establishments helped clean up rough streets. "We took care of the entire block. Before us, it was all dealers, so there's a safety issue," HopeNet's Smith told me as the once-welcoming club on 9th Street near Howard was reduced to bare walls.

Patients were also feeling the pain, including a 48-year-old ex-con who said he was paroled two years ago after serving 25 years in prison for attempted murder. "I have anger issues, big time. The only thing that keeps me calm and quiet and not blowing up is medical marijuana," he told us, seething, before praising HopeNet's "homelike environment" and supportive community. "It's important to sit and relax in an environment that is comfortable and safe. All this is doing is pushing us into the streets."

DRIVEN UNDERGROUND

Before going through his latest official misconduct battles and fighting to return to his job as the elected sheriff, Ross Mirkarimi was the District 5 supervisor who sponsored the creation of the city's medical marijuana regulatory system, the product of a long and arduous legislative process.

"We developed the system out of stark necessity because neither local government nor state government gave a roadmap to the dispensaries," Mirkarimi said. "Prop. 215 legalized medical marijuana, but there were no rules around it."

Comments

It's "Change we can believe in."

Please keep in mind that when Mr Hopey-Changey (Obama) was campaigning, he didn't say what direction the "change" would be in....more regressive than Bush. His devout believers automatically assumed---wrongly so---that the "change" would be in a positive direction. Wrong.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 14, 2012 @ 7:12 pm

vote for Obama in November anyway so Obama can get away with this. Are you going to vote for Romney, a Mormon, instead? He doesn't even drink alcohol or caffeine.

Same with blacks. Obama doesn't have to court or appease them as he's got their vote anyway.

Makes sense for Obama to be seen as being tough on "coastal hippies" - that plays well in the heartland where he does need the votes.

Electioneering, plain and simple.

Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 2:01 am

Barack Obama is so brilliant that his Wall Street insurer and Big Pharma Corporate Welfare Act of 2010 both mobilized the Republicans while alienating and demoralizing liberals and progressives to the extent that, like Clinton before him, the Democrats lost the House.

Yeah, those liberals have no where else to go but Republican lite.

Posted by marcos on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 6:09 am

any alternative is even more right-wing.

Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 7:14 am

Liberals are not cornered, they voted with their feet in 2010 and its not made much difference between what the Democrats produced in 2009-2011 and what the Democrats with the Republican congress delivered during the 2011-2013 session.

The Democrats are left with nothing but pointing out that their opponents are worse, and given how bad as in Republican the Democrats have become, intelligent voters see the truth that there is no significant difference on the big ticket issues between the two corporate parties.

Like progressives in San Francisco, if all you've got to run on is fear of the opponent and support of those with claims on public resources, you're toast politically. Good riddance!

Posted by marcos on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 7:30 am

Obama in November. If they stay away or vote Green then, like in 2000, Romney should steal it.

Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 8:07 am

Romney, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, there is really no difference on most critical economic issues, Nader was correct. On the social issues, there is rarely any movement, the stasis is used to paralyze.

The only way that the Democrats will abandon Republican economics is for them to be faced with the prospect of political extinction. Even then, they will probably go down with the ship.

It is time for everyone from the Tea Party to Occupy to actively withdraw consent from a hijacked political system.

Posted by marcos on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 8:52 am

And the means to withdraw is to have a political system wherein dissent does not mean self-destruction: Instant run-off voting.

I didn't mean to drag you into the net with my reference to "two-faced dissemblers," marcos -- though I imagine you know that -- I do simply think you are really mistaken and quite a bit stubborn about it.

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Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 9:34 am
Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 10:04 pm
Posted by Joseph Thomas on Aug. 20, 2012 @ 8:10 am

So what? What's the difference overall?

There will be other candidates on the ballot other than two Republican corporatist candidates (Obama and Romney). A "liberal" can vote for anyone they choose, rather than voting from a position of fear (as in the Fear Card, which is what you espousing). We've gotten to where we are because of people voting from a position of fear. Because every single election people drag out the Fear Card, as you're doing.

How much worse could it get at this point? We're hitting the wall with both corporatist parties and their candidates, so does it matter at what speed? We have 8 wars/droning activities under Mr Hopey-Changey going now and Iran will make 9. All you're trying to do is delay the crash, when it's inevitable.

Personally, I'm not voting. I'm done with it. The system is a sham and the system is entirely corrupt (at all levels of government), especially when we have easily-hackable electronic voting machines all over the nation. I refuse to knowingly take part in anything that I know to be corrupt and a sham and those who do are complicit in the corruption and the sham.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 3:43 pm
Posted by Guest on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 4:18 pm
Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 10:05 pm

Here here!

Posted by Joseph Thomas on Aug. 20, 2012 @ 8:08 am

"He doesn't even drink alcohol or caffeine."

So now we're voting for President based on how many mood-altering chemicals they consume? I hate Romney, but I hope I'd be able to vote for someone who abstains, including from O Holy Cannabis. Y'know, being wasted all the time isn't actually a virtue.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 17, 2012 @ 10:01 am

"Ammiano and the other mostly Democratic Party politicians who spoke tried to avoid putting Obama directly into the crosshairs of the angry activists,..."

Why? If this were Bush, they wouldn't try to avoid putting Bush directly into the crosshairs! That's why this D and R partisan "team" nonsense just boils me. The hypocrisy boils me. The double standard boils me. Oh, we can't criticize OUR guy (our Obama). Why the hell not? Oh, it's because we have to protect our "team and our party allegiance.....my team is better than your team." Ugh.

As the election approaches, I'm seeing many of the same people who were in the streets and protesting Bush (as they should have been) for 8 years now making excuses and apologies and justifications for their Obama having expanded on what Bush put in place. It's alright when Obama does it, but it wasn't alright when Bush did the same things. Hypocrites!

Posted by Guest on Aug. 14, 2012 @ 8:26 pm

We do have good reason to be disappointed in Obama and this probably represents just another of many delusional attempts at "real politik" on the part of his administration...

and of course there's the despisable cadre of two-faced disemblers who lament our stark choices in this upcoming election while elsewhere being regular attackers of the IRV elections which would provide an avenue to escape that dilemma.

The vast majority of Americans feel that marijuana should be legal for medicinal uses and perhaps a bare majority think it should be *just* *plain* *legal*; and yet that consensus has as little effect on the big lever-pullers in Washington DC as our consensus on taxing the rich -- or getting money out of politics.

What have we got? Here's the White House comment number: 202-456-1111. Last time I called, I quite calmly and thoroughly excoriated Obama for his performance after thanking the young volunteer who answered for her service and apologizing for adding to what I told her I knew was likely a torrent of complaints -- and not all rational -- from both sides of the spectrum.

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Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 5:48 am

a different result? Let me guess, you think Nader would have won in 2000, rather than just losing it for Gore.

You crack me up, brother Lilli

Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 7:16 am

Thanks, lilli. As for your right-wing doppelganger (btw: fair warning, we're taking steps to ban impostering), it's bad politics to depress your political base. Romney understood this in choosing Ryan as a running mate, which fires up his conservative base and helps with fundraising and GOTV efforts. Obama's progressive base may hold their nose and vote for him, either out of fear or hopes that he'll be better in the second term, but out lack of enthusiasm could cost him the election.

Posted by steven on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 9:52 am

the handle "Lilli" has credibility, and "Guest" had none. Since then, Lilli has also posted as Guest, so I made my point successfully.

People have been telling you to implement registration for years but you never listen. This is our way of telling you that you need it, otherwise we might all as well post as "Guest" or "Lilli"

Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 10:07 pm

As for the boorish behavior on this site, for a minimum investment of effort the problem might be addressed -- at least for the near-term -- by blocking a single IP address.

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Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 10:53 pm

Do you really know so little?

Posted by lillipublicans© on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 11:49 pm

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Posted by Guest on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 10:28 am

Hope the medical marijuana dispensary like being lumped in with the oil companies and the coal producers. This administration will do everything in its power to destroy any business with which it does not agree. It doesn't matter that your business is legal and provides needed jobs and services to some Americans. If you are not part of the America that Obama approves of - you're screwed.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 3:06 pm

The feds are cracking down on medical marijuana because this is their racket and the intent is to stamp out the competition. Seriously.

Posted by Rev Jon on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 3:11 pm

Too many potheads in the city... It's like dumbness is sprouting up all around us. I remember the previous Board of Supervisors, when half of them would be high during meetings. I'm in favor of cutting back on dope smoking. There are too many dumb people in the city now. I wish they'd all go back to Milwaukee or wherever the fuck they come from.

Posted by Winston Wong on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 4:38 pm

Back to milwaukee? Show your intelligence, or lack thereof. Marijuana has no effects on cognitive thinking ability, reactions and motor skills decrease but not as distinct or strong as alcohol.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 6:04 pm

"It makes you stupid." -Mary-Louise Parker, WEEDS

Posted by Guest on Aug. 17, 2012 @ 10:02 am

With the large US banks laundering trillions in illegal drug money, with near total impunity and federal agencies caught arming the violent, powerful Latin American drug cartels, you can bet that Uncle Same want's to shut down, non-connected sources of cannabis.

This is not a policy issue. For them, it's all about the money.

They are using our communities as dumping grounds for "their" f_cked up drugs.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 5:29 pm
Posted by HopeNet SF on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 5:35 pm

Obama wins California no matter what. He and Romney don't campaign here, but only show up to collect money. The state is not in play.

Therefore Obama can throw a bone to the drug warriors without paying a political penalty. That's why he's screwed us on this issue.

Also please note that Obama has kept the rendition program going, meaning that the US is still a torture regime. Also Obama assassinates US citizens on his whim without any due process.

I could go on but when your editorial staff is full of Obamatrons who still think it's 2008, it's hard to reason with you.

You honestly don't understand what a tool of the ruling class this guy is? He literally did sell out his grandmother just to win a news cycle. He has no principles and he is not your friend.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 15, 2012 @ 8:04 pm

"Same with blacks. Obama doesn't have to court or appease them as he's got their vote anyway." What a stupid, racist statement, "lillipublicans©."
He sure as Hell doesn't have my vote. I'm not voting for any of these clowns. I refuse to participate in such a shallow farce as "national elections" which have no more validity than those in any other Fascist Plutocratic country. Who will win the election?
The banks and billionaires, as usual and always.

Why are dispensaries being shut down? Because weak, soft, gadget-obsessed, fake reality watching, drunk-or-hungover, timid, frightened "Americans" allow it, that's why. Afraid of their own government. What a country!

Posted by Joseph Thomas on Aug. 16, 2012 @ 7:26 am

In fact, if all blacks had stayed home on election day, McCain would be President.

So yeah, Joseph, stay home on election day, and help Romney win

Posted by Guest on Aug. 16, 2012 @ 8:54 am

Read my lips: it doesn't matter if it's a Romney or an Obama; the corporations and billionaires will win, and you will lose even more of your rights.

Posted by Joseph Thomas on Aug. 17, 2012 @ 8:53 am

You can't count on a legal system that serves monopoly capital to protect you. People need to defend that which they fought for.

Posted by ron on Aug. 16, 2012 @ 9:22 am

Obama is just another shade of Bush!
Stop the Feds war on pot!!!!
In November Just say NO to Obama and Romney!!!
Vote for a candidate who will respect California's voters!

Posted by Guest on Aug. 16, 2012 @ 10:22 am
Posted by Guest on Aug. 16, 2012 @ 10:38 am

If you're a Californian, vote for whoever you like..won't matter. The winner is always declared before they even count our votes. You're only in chains if you choose to be.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 16, 2012 @ 12:20 pm

.....has only just begun. The future of cannabis is industrial hemp. Legalization will destroy the faux medical industry and allow anyone to grow it for personal use. Growing is the only long term solution; club prices are extortionate, and most clubs sell medium grade, dried out bud as "premium." I am tired of supporting Yuppies and "Hipsters." When it is growing everywhere, no one will need to sell or thief it. Prices should be somewhere around $100 per pound, considering t is a "weed," and will grow like one anyplace in the World.
Industrial hemp is a multi-billion dollar industry just waiting for some entity, like the State of California or the City and County of San Francisco to remind the Federal government that they are our servant, not our masters. So if we want to grow hemp for paper, fiber, oil, food, plastics, etc., well, ain't nobodies business but our own.
And if that requires secession from the 'union," so be it. This never was a "united" states; we are still fighting the Civil War. Washington D.C. is in The Dirty South. Let them have "their" country, and pay for their own wars. We will use our money for universal education, healthcare, and transportation, and subsidized housing and food. Paid for mainly with taxes from industrial hemp.

Posted by Joseph Thomas on Aug. 17, 2012 @ 9:37 am

Obama's hypocrisy is truly astonishing. As David Maraniss points out in his new bio of Obama, Obama smoked pot consistently throughout his high school and college years. Nor has he lost his contacts with the "Choom Gang" - in fact, he still makes a point of spending Christmas vacations with his Choom Gang pal, Robert "Bobby" Titcomb, the son of a noted Hawaii politician "Judge Titcomb". Bobby occupies a beachside mansion with no visible sign of income. What's more, there have been reliable reports that Obama still uses back in Washington. The blog entitled "The Ulsterman Report" regularly runs interviews with a Democratic operative known only as "The White House Insider" (from internal evidence, probably someone on Rahm Emanuel's staff) who claims that Obama has been observed high even at Cabinet meetings, and has particularly angered the military by his behavior.
http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-they-w...

Posted by Guest Cloudytoodaze on Aug. 17, 2012 @ 9:51 am

Better pot than alcohol. Things like drone attacks and assassinating citizens are out of his hands, and he is probably just trying to get by without being assassinated by the military. Michele is the only one doing anything useful by encouraging organic gardens and childhood fitness.

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