August 6, 2003
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By Andrea Nemerson
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DEAR ANDREA: I'm a plus-size person, and I plan to check out
the book you mentioned in an earlier column, Big Big Love. It
reminded me of a comeback I heard in the early '80s, from Lydia Lunch,
the punk poet-singer and groovy good-size gal. She was asked how she
liked being referred to as "ample," and she answered, "What's
it to me if some guy can't get it up?"
Well put, I thought! At the time it was downright inspirational, and
it still rings true today! It produces a really interesting, introspective
look on the face of the man rude enough to express an unsolicited comment
regarding a lack of desire due to a lady's largeness!
Love,
Go Girl
Dear Girl: Eeek! I remember Lydia Lunch, but I don't remember ever wanting
to take etiquette lessons from her. I'm wondering if even the redoubtable
Ms. Lunch, upon receiving unsolicited weight-loss advice, would have
looked the offender straight in the face and snarled, "What's it
to me if you can't get it up?" On second thought, of course she
would, but she had few peers.
I love the idea of the snappy comeback, but I was raised to "Rise
above, honey, rise above!" and "Never sink to their level"
and "Don't complain and don't explain," which is slightly
off topic, but hey, I was on a (mother-quoting) roll. Mostly, I'm with
my mom I can't help worrying that once people begin lashing back
at every passing moron who opens his or her filthy hole, what's left
of civilization will slide rapidly into the sea. Then again, we're talking
about people making loud, crass, unsolicited comments about the sexual
attractiveness of total strangers. How much less civilized can it get?
Love ,
Andrea
Dear Andrea, I love your column, but maybe I have a viewpoint you didn't
consider for the (long-ago) big lonely lady (August 2001). So if you
ever return to dating advice: I've found that some cultures admire junkie-thin
women and some admire meat on a lady's bones. Without going on a fetishizing-the-exotic
jag, a full-figured woman may find more attention from attractive Caribbean,
African, or Pacific Island gentlemen. Cultivating an interest in reggae,
samba, and other booty-shaking styles could open up a new dating scene
for her. I say this only because some of my more zaftig friends have
found love this way.
Love,
Fat girls' friend
Dear Friend: Sigh. Yeah. I've recommended the shake your groove thang
thing and the cross-cultural dating thing, but halfheartedly, I'll admit.
I don't much like giving dating advice; I just get frustrated. The truth
is that beyond a sympathetic ear and a book or Web site recommendation
or two, there really isn't that much an advice columnist can do. Sometimes
perfectly worthy people go dateless just because life isn't fair. Dating
advice is a feel-good activity for the giver, and that makes me feel
bad.
I have known lively, attractive larger women like my correspondent
to benefit from a trip abroad, but I dunno it kinda reminds me
of the sex educator (I shudder to say "former colleague")
I once heard suggesting that, since you can't have sex with 11-year-olds
here, a pedophile might want to go to Thailand, where you can. Oh, man,
was I pissed. On second thought, it doesn't remind me of that at all.
Going where everybody likes your ass is perfectly legit. In fact, it's
a good idea. That was just me being a tenured professor of misanthropology
again.
Love,
Andrea
Dear Andrea: I'm one of those "thin" women your correspondent
might see and think can find sex/love any time. It's not necessarily
so. Yeah, I'm thin, cute, nice, funny, smart, artistic, own my own business,
and am happy but I can't seem to find a guy either. I do meet
men who find me attractive, but I've yet to meet my match. I love sex,
but since sport sex makes me feel like I've had a snack when I want
a full-course banquet, I've given it up. (Thank God for Good Vibrations.)
I see all kinds of women with guys looking happy and sometimes I wonder,
"Why not me too?" But mostly I don't stress about it. I don't
think that fat or thin makes as much of a difference as, hell, I don't
know, maybe being in the right place at the right time? I know it's
easier said than done, but for crying out loud stop comparing yourself
to those other gals. It'll only make you feel lousy.
Love,
Alone and skinny
Dear Skinny:
I was you! I was thin, cute, smart, funny, and single. I fucking
hated it. I've got to say I'm impressed with your poise and aplomb,
and your ability to give a damn about somebody else's dissatisfaction
while still wrestling with your own. You have a fine grasp on what it's
really like out there for single women, and yet you don't sound jaded
at all. Want a job?
Love,
Andrea
E-mail Andrea Nemerson at andrea@altsexcolumn.com.