By Tim Redmond
It was hardly a bill of cosmic import, but Assemblymember Tom Ammiano’s AB 1176 would have helped the Port of San Francisco with some financing issues. It’s the kind of bill that legislators offer on behalf of their cities all the time -- and generally, they are non-controversial. This one was the same -- no substantive opposition, it passed both houses easily -- and normally, the governor would sign it with little fanfare.
But no: Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill -- and sent Ammiano and the legislators a remarkable veto letter. The letter says nothing about the substance of the bill; in fact, the language is really convoluted and it’s hard to figure out what the gov is really saying.
Here’s the official message:

But wait -- there’s a real message, an actual missive from the Gov to Tom, embedded in this text. And it’s not hard to find -- in fact, it’s hard to believe it could have been a coincidence.
Read down the letters on the left side of the message

Well, maybe Arnold is still mad at being told to "kiss my gay ass", but this is a rather puerile way for the governor of California to be spending his time.
Let's not forget -- there was a substantive bill here that would have helped San Francisco. So the gov is not just telling the entire Legislature Fuck You, he's also saying it to the city and county of SF.
What an asshole. No wonder it's hard to get anything done in Sacramento; the gov's office is full of frat boys spending hours (and it would have taken hours to get this exactly right) making stupid little-boy jokes.
(His press office hasn't returned my call seeking comment on this; I'll let you know if they do.)
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Comments (199)
You people are really reaching.
Keep up with your juvenile thought processes & see how far it takes you.
(Tom Amiano is a DB anyway)
Posted by Tweedlebug | October 27, 2009 02:55 PM
UPDATE: Aaron McLear from the governor's press office just called. When I asked him if the Fuck You message was intentional, all he would say was "what a strange coincidence." He was clearly being sarcastic.
Tweedle, that pretty much confirms it -- these guys knew exactly what they were doing.
Posted by tim redmond | October 27, 2009 03:15 PM
That's funny, I received a similar letter from Supervisor Chris Daly's office that spelled out "F-A-I-R-F-I-E-L-D."
Posted by Tenderloin Tomm | October 27, 2009 03:24 PM
Hey Mr Redmond,
You forget the opening sentence of the letter starts with an 'I.' If we dismiss the letter's preamble 'To the Members of the California State Assembly' as a usual cordial 'Dear so-and-so' that begins all letters, we can see that the letter becomes more personal Mr. Ammiano as: 'I Fuck You.'
Posted by Pantz | October 27, 2009 03:28 PM
Wow, how juvenile and petty. Kudos for sleuthing the buried message. Way too much of a coincidence for the "f-u" message to be unintentional.
Posted by Luke Thomas | October 27, 2009 03:30 PM
While I don't doubt puerile attitude of Arnie-- for skeptics, can you explain how you all obtained the letter to prove authenticity?
Posted by mcas | October 27, 2009 03:44 PM
mcas: it's here: http://gov.ca.gov/pdf/press/2009bills/AB1176_Ammiano_Veto_Message.pdf
Posted by ArC | October 27, 2009 03:51 PM
Sure, the letter is posted on the gov's own site
http://gov.ca.gov/pdf/press/2009bills/AB1176_Ammiano_Veto_Message.pdf
It's entirely authentic.
Posted by tim redmond | October 27, 2009 03:53 PM
That is pretty awesome. Amiano is a jerk btw.
Posted by Thanos | October 27, 2009 03:55 PM
The California Legislative Council, which archives all of the state legistlative material has the same letter, but it, as all of the other material, is monospaced:
http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_1151-1200/ab_1176_vt_20091012.html
If you copy and paste it into a word processor, set the text to 10pt Arial, with or without jusification, then adjust the margins to 1.25" on either side (i.e. total paragraph width of 6"), you can get the text to break on those words.
Kudos to the governator's staff (let's face it, he's not composing each message personally, they're being handed to him for his signature) -- if you ask me, it's a lot more creative than "kiss my gay ass".
Posted by sstraw | October 27, 2009 04:05 PM
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/12/16/sanfrancisco/
Posted by Tweety | October 27, 2009 04:25 PM
First, I'm sure it was coincidence...Second, Ammiano invited this upon himself for acting so unbecoming. As Democrats we shouldn't lower our standards no matter what the context is, a local fundraiser or a joint meeting of congress, we should be taking the moral high road and the people of SF should be castigating Ammiano for what he did. The people who elected Tom Ammiano have themselves to blame for electing someone who resorts to churlish and sophomoric remarks when dealing with the Governor.
Posted by Dude | October 27, 2009 04:30 PM
Question to Tweedle:
Do you just hate fun? Lighten up.
Posted by Kristin | October 27, 2009 04:32 PM
Anyone actually care about the text of the letter? That until the 13% approval rated legislature genuinely engages substantive issues, pet projects are on hold. I'm with Arnie.
Posted by rich | October 27, 2009 05:27 PM
Fair enough, Rich, but a tweak to the way SF can use bonds backed by future tax revenues to pay for infrastructure improvements is a pretty boring "pet project".
Posted by Sean | October 27, 2009 05:42 PM
that is absolutely epic.
kudos to Aarghnold.
Posted by deforge | October 27, 2009 05:44 PM
For anyone to think that there was some sort of hidden underlying meaning to the governor's message is crazy-talk. There is no way that a dignified man would kneel to such a low-level.
You are insane, and your hatred of Arnold has taken over your discernment. May God have mercy on your soul, unless you choose to repent from this madness.
Posted by Brandon Cobbs | October 27, 2009 05:49 PM
Damnit - that last post was set up so it would have the same subliminal message, but the formatting changed as I entered it.
My attempt at a joke failed - I don't really think that you're crazy; this was a good find.
Posted by Brandon Cobbs | October 27, 2009 05:51 PM
No prob, Brandon -- I'm here to help:
For anyone to think that there was some sort of hidden
underlying meaning to the governor's message is
crazy-talk. There is no way that a dignified man would
kneel to such a low-level.
You are insane, and your hatred of Arnold has taken
over your discernment. May God have mercy on your soul,
unless you choose to repent from this madness.
Posted by Marke B. | October 27, 2009 06:15 PM
Ammiano should resign. He was drunk, crude, rude and failed to further his constiuents interest by acting in a way thst would get a regular citizen arrested for being drunk and disorderly. And I am a Democrat. The Governor is playing into it, but Ammiano has more egg on his face. He should go to AA.
Posted by Maria | October 27, 2009 06:18 PM
Almost as juvenile as Obama giving Hillary and McCain the finger while referencing them in speeches.
Posted by Warden | October 27, 2009 06:19 PM
BWAHAHAHHAHA!
Lighten up, Francis!
Posted by Randy Rager | October 27, 2009 06:22 PM
Nice Catch Tim.
Intentional or not, and I hope the former ass it shows that there is someone in the Gropenator's office who, although they could never match Tom's wit and whimsy, at least attempts to respond in like vein. Very little hope of that if the doomsday scenario comes to pass and Gavin the little Greaser Monkey buys the people's house.
Posted by Patrick Monk | October 27, 2009 06:26 PM
The California Legislature has been saying "fuck you" to the people of California for the last 30 years and more, it's a shame that another lame-ass politician is the one saying this to them rather than the people themselves.
Posted by chaos | October 27, 2009 06:28 PM
Aww, arnie told your legislators to stop their bull and do real work, so you get bent out of shape? Man what a shame. I mean, telling legislators to do real work? It's UnDemocratic!
Nick
Posted by Nick B | October 27, 2009 06:33 PM
I'll say it to you San Francisco scum, too: FUCK YOU!
We don't care for your left-of-Mao politics, and we don't care for your anti-Americanism, and we don't care for your sick perversion in the streets. Go secede, you twisted degenerates.
Posted by Reggie | October 27, 2009 06:38 PM
Well what do you know. Arnie is FINALLY showing some balls to those assholes in the legislature (state and local).
Posted by GarandFan | October 27, 2009 06:41 PM
its funny that a Dem like Arnie would dis a fellow Dem like that, but i don't see what all the excitement is about even if he did.
after all, its not like Frisco is a major port, shipping hub or even a major city... there are plenty of important things we need to fund, and your so called "Port" isn't one of them. better to spend the money in San Diego, to improve the harbor for the Navy, or LA/Long Beach, where all the trade does come in.
if you want to help your "Port", i suggest you hold a bake sale or something.
Posted by redc1c4 | October 27, 2009 06:45 PM
I am really amused that Dude thinks Ammiano deserved a "coincidence". Are you sure you don't have a second cake you would also like to eat and have at the same time?
Posted by ArC | October 27, 2009 06:47 PM
As an outsider looking in I can only say I am amused. You have a completely dysfunctional referendum system and a completely dysfunctional legislative system. But at least you have a governor with a sense of humor. And you are ragging on the governor.
After you finish with your false outrage why don't you stand up and spend some of that energy to fix the joke that California has become.
Posted by yoshi | October 27, 2009 06:52 PM
Childish? Yes. Petty? Of course. Is Arnold any worse than, say, Pete Stark, whom you lefties adore? Not even close.
Did Ammiano have it coming? He's had it coming for years going back to his days on the Board of Supervisors. If his little feelings are hurt, he should think of it as karma b-slapping his smirking face after his years of support of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence's spitting in the face of the Catholic church.
Does Harvey Milk deserve a state holiday for being assassinated? No.
Posted by L.N. Smithee | October 27, 2009 07:16 PM
Maybe Arnold just doesn't like girlymen.
Posted by neilwied | October 27, 2009 07:23 PM
Sounds like there's a whole country of idiots that need to kiss our proud Democrat faggot ass.
K.
Posted by Kev | October 27, 2009 07:24 PM
Good for Arnie.
Posted by Russ | October 27, 2009 07:25 PM
Hours?
Dude, you could do that in 30 minutes by yourself, with a modest bit of intelligence.
Posted by Midas | October 27, 2009 07:26 PM
Arnold is not a very good governor but California deserves him, very much. The peoples of the San Francisco also deserve him, very much. This whole state is a governmental farce and it's silly to single anyone out for criticisms.
Posted by happyfeet | October 27, 2009 07:29 PM
dear jarjar:
next time you're out shopping, do stop in and buy a clue: Arnie is no more a Republican than Ammiano is.
as for fraud and waste, that's the only kind of spending your end of the state supports anymore. Pelousy, Boxershorts and Fineswine are all proof of that, as is Ear Leader, who you supported in droves.
the failure is all yours. revel in it.
Posted by redc1c4 | October 27, 2009 07:29 PM
I wonder what Arnold's fellow Republicans think about fraud and waste now.
This little stunt probably will end up costing the taxpayers more than the bill would have.
Posted by jarjar | October 27, 2009 07:31 PM
It's governments like California's that make governments like Texas' look normal.
Posted by passionate conservative | October 27, 2009 07:44 PM
Cute but a real man would have just said it out loud. Arnold has been a disappointment in that he hasn't confronted the Democrats but has appeased them.
Still, I bet some intern on the staff came up with this.
As to the San Francisco Port, isn't that an overly fruity fortified wine?
Posted by Whitehall | October 27, 2009 07:49 PM
A personal note to S.F. and all those there who vote Democrat, nothing offends you if you can allow LAMBDA and Gavin Nuisance hold prominent positions in government. You get what you deserve and it’s high time and about time. I too think you are number one.
Posted by ROLF | October 27, 2009 07:50 PM
Frat boys in the governor's office isn't so bad, given that the "liberals " in the legislature make Vladimir Lenin and Karl Marx look like Reagan conservatives. Lived in CA for 5 long years. Glad I was transferred out by my employer to a low tax, efficiently run state.
Posted by CLH8712 | October 27, 2009 08:12 PM
The assholes are not just arnold and his frat boys, it's the entire legislature. Continuously pumping out useless spending bills while whining about not having enough money....assholes think money grows on californian trees apparently.
The same disease has infected the national congress and senate, as well as the presidency.
All these assholes need to wake up and get a clue, or do just what arnold intimates here. (using OFF instead of YOU)
Posted by AB | October 27, 2009 08:15 PM
Um, jarjar, how will this "stunt" cost the state anything?
Posted by What? | October 27, 2009 08:19 PM
If the governor of your own state isn't enough, let me chime in for the rest of the country:
What Arnold Said!
Posted by DaveP. | October 27, 2009 08:21 PM
pdf was made by an "mnaple". Is there an M. Naple who works for him?
Posted by Huh? | October 27, 2009 08:42 PM
Just for the record, for those losers who enjoy talling Tom Ammiano an asshole: Tom was an excellent member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors -- the two signatures measures that Gavin Newsom touts on the campaign trail, universal health care and the "rainy day fund" were both Ammiano bills. And he's doing well in Sacto -- so well that even in his first term he's already chair of the Public Safety Committee.
And while this wasn't a huge bill, it would have helped the city -- and for the gov to respond this way is pretty asshole-ish. Seems to me.
Posted by tim redmond | October 27, 2009 08:48 PM
The bill will pass in one form or another, we'll get our way, and Arnold and Tom will be out of office soon enough so people equally as incompetent can take over. However, the event his highly amusing to watch all the rightwing squeaktoys pile on in blog comments as if it means something. Rage on little tykes, it's all you've got!
Posted by DanB | October 27, 2009 08:50 PM
Oh, and this wasn't a "pet project" and it wouldn't have cost the state money.
Just so you all remember: Arnie's purely political decision to get rid of the vehicle license fee has now cost California $27.5 billion. No wonder we have a budget crisis.
Posted by tim redmond | October 27, 2009 08:54 PM
I believe it. The literal words in the letter and its literal message make very little, if any, sense, without reading into its hidden message.
Also, I bet if one were to ask a statistician the odds of writing "f--- you" unintentionally, he or she would say it is not terribly likely.
Posted by Edward | October 27, 2009 09:03 PM
Childish or not, no-one deserves the big FU more than that hag AMmiano. It's just too bad it couldn't be delivered by suppository via the toe of a size 12 boot. No... never mind - he'd probably like that....
Posted by Moriah | October 27, 2009 09:26 PM
LOL!!! If it was on purpose then the Gov has raised the bar. Hilarious! Amiano is a total pussy. He deserves a big FU!
Posted by Tony | October 27, 2009 09:36 PM
It needed to be said. Arnold was right.
Posted by Mike | October 27, 2009 10:10 PM
Looks like the SFGate right-wing-nut-job internet trolls found this page.
Whatever... the actual voters of the city of San Francisco love Tom and we'll continue to elect him. So cry all the impotent tears that you want because your internet ravings won't ever translate into legislative changes.
Posted by SFResident | October 27, 2009 10:36 PM
"While I don't doubt puerile attitude of Arnie"
What a pompous, self-righteous ninny are you! "Oh, I'm aghast that a politician has the audacity to be a real person with a sense of humor! No, no, NO! They should be SERIOUS! Serious all the TIME! Otherwise they're not doing their job for me me me me ME!
You haven't LIVED until you've composed your first acrostic. Trust me.
Posted by Mosher | October 27, 2009 10:41 PM
Governor, you are
obstructing me and my
friends who
undermine
criminals by
keeping and bearing
arms every
day, when you
illegally violate the
constitution so we will get
killed.
Posted by JR | October 27, 2009 10:43 PM
when California, and all the big, knee jerk Dem voting cities are in Chapter 9 because the tax base has left the state, then who will you blame?
your kind always forgets two things: a good portion of California is not full of mindless lieberals, and neither is most of the rest of country. after suffering through the epic fail that is Ear Leader's first 10 months in office, its likely going to be quite some time before anyone sensible falls for the old "pie is sky" bullshit they bought this time around.
President Palin is coming...... you should start panicking now.
Posted by redc1c4 | October 27, 2009 10:47 PM
Hilarious! Arnold beats Ammiano at his own schtick. It's about time there was some humor in this state - even Ammiano has become so goddamn serious. I wouldn't be so serious about your job, Tom, considering the results - a failed, bankrupt state that rewards the guilty, punishes the innocent, and taxes the shit out of you if you dare to even attempt to succeed.
Signed... a 20-year SF resident which means I've been here longer than you o leftist carpetbagger!
Posted by David K | October 27, 2009 10:47 PM
Awwww! Are the poor little S.F. liberals offended? How ironic. How many of you were offended by Ammiano's "kiss my gay ass" comment? I bet 99% of you thought it was a riot.
Better yet, how many of you laughed it up when a certain dirtbag made THIS move? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM
Hypocrite central.
Posted by gregor | October 27, 2009 10:58 PM
Shortly after he was elected, Arnold put forth several common sense, excellent proposals that would have gone a long way towards improving California government. The voters, who'd elected him to make changes, listened instead to special interests and big money 30 seconds TV ads and voted them *all* down. Since then, they've pretty much gotten what they deserved -- a governor who checks with the weatherman to see which way the wind blows....
Posted by Joe | October 27, 2009 11:07 PM
Oh wow that is just too funny
Posted by Nunya | October 28, 2009 12:09 AM
"Arnie's purely political decision to get rid of the vehicle license fee has now cost California $27.5 billion."
Not taking $27.5 billion from the taxpayers and giving it to the politicians hasn't "cost" the government of California anything, any more than me not breaking into your house and stealing your 54" Sony has "cost" me a large screen TV.
Posted by Thomas L. Knapp | October 28, 2009 12:10 AM
Arnold is doing a great job as Governor, and working hard to improve the great state of California.
That 'saying' was an unfortunate coincidence, it was NOT intentional. Come on, it's obvious it would be too difficult to exactly format a letter that way just to send some childish message that Arnold would never send. He's too nice a guy for that type of juvenile and offensive behavior.
I am surprised at how many people actually believe this to be real, and not just a weird fluke of how the words happened to fall. He wasn't sending a 'message', it was just how the letter happened to be formatted. I am sure if they had realized it, they would have reformatted the same letter with shorter or longer lines to avoid the unfortunate coincidence.
For those of you who believe it was real, grow up and have some class.
Posted by Barbara | October 28, 2009 12:12 AM
All I can say is that maybe San Francisco, and every other city, should manage their own financial issues instead of turning to the state for a bailout because they can't afford the crap they want.
But all the SF liberals will bitch, moan and cry over this while complaining about how uncivilized the right wing is.
All I can say is "Lick it up, baby"
Posted by Instinct | October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
The governor did not veto the bill (if the contents of his reply is accurate). He just didn't sign it.
If there's no veto, the bill passes by default at the end of the legislative session, if memory serves me right. Schwarzenegger should know this because Gray Davis explained why he continued to sign legislation as a lame-duck governor just prior to his recall.
So SF still gets what they wanted, and the governor got a pretty clever jab at Ammiano (which I have to admit he deserved after that outburst). I don't see a problem here.
Posted by noah | October 28, 2009 01:50 AM
I notice that no one discusses what HR 1176 is about. It's the legislatures sucking up to the hispanic community with random immigration reform that will affect less than 1/10th of 1% of Californians. He was right to veto it and tell the legislature to do something productive.
Posted by Jared Lorz | October 28, 2009 01:59 AM
Woops read the wrong bill disregard previous comment.
Posted by Jared Lorz | October 28, 2009 02:02 AM
If I did the math right the odds of this being a coincidence are 0.0000000001% [(1/26)^7]
Posted by Paul | October 28, 2009 04:08 AM
Good job, Arnie!
This is a spot-on! It's also a great communication style and very time effective!
If you run for Member of Parliament in my riding, I'd vote for you!
Posted by Andy (Canada) | October 28, 2009 04:19 AM
wish the governator had not vetoed but ammiano, perhaps the most ridiculous legislator ever to represent our fair city, invited payback. is there any good reason for him to yell out "kiss my gay ass" when schwartzenegger stopped by at willie brown's gala recently? if he was trying to goad arnold, congrats. it worked...and we, the people of san francisco, lost big time.
what a jerk
Posted by Bill Winer | October 28, 2009 04:19 AM
All you libs in Cal just kill me- most of you have never been told "No" before, and have an inflated sense of self, kind of like Obama.
Sometimes there is a good reason for not doing something- I know you believe Arnold can pull money out of his butt, but there is a time to cut back, and this is one of them.
Perhaps if you all weren't so busy granting yourselves all these little "perks" that taxpayers have to pay for, you might not be so cash- strapped right now, and businesses fleeing to Nevada and Arizona as fast as they can because of the extortionate tax rate.
You really need to budget- Arnold telling you no might be the thing you need, you CAN learn to do without, and the state is not the only source of cash.
If it is truly worth doing, someone will see an opportunity to make money and pitch in.
Daddy's fresh out of Benjamins.
Posted by Blake | October 28, 2009 04:46 AM
Michael Naple works for the Governor's Office.
http://gov.ca.gov/archive/formtec-list2/Naple+Michael
Posted by kentuckyliz | October 28, 2009 04:55 AM
you freaks in california deserve what you get. your broke. noone wants to live there anymore. the taxes are outrageous. and you shutoff water to farms to save parameceums or whatever it is. you are nuts. laughable. juvenille. actually lodged in an adolescent state of emotional and inteelectual development, as a group. your act as a GROUP, as adolescents. its clear and obvious. and someday soon you will all have to grow up. when your insane legislatiors and your juvenille gov spend their time doing this while rome burns, it kinda tells the rest of us something very important. as cali goes, so goes the country? maybe. if so, we would respectfully request you succeed from the union and keep your whack-ass punk unsustainable welfare state crap to yourself ok? and have it crash on YOUR heads. ya know, the ones responsible. and STOP ASKING US TO BAIL YOUR IDIOT ASSES OUT! so when we get rid of the sicalist in the white house we can start growing jobs again. capice? late. much later.
Posted by fred | October 28, 2009 05:23 AM
For Noah, good catch.
There's an old joke of a guy sitting next to a parrot with the guy taking the parrot's lead of being obnoxious to the stewardess. When she throws them both out of the plane, the parrot tells the guy, "for someone without wings, you're pretty ballsy".
For someone without veto power, Ammiano was pretty stupid.
And yes, I believe the FU was totally on purpose and well-deserved. And it gets the press it deserves. Maybe Ammiano can grow up.
Posted by Desider | October 28, 2009 05:43 AM
Since when does it take hours to make a letter like that? Please, that's 10 minutes.
Posted by Frank | October 28, 2009 05:49 AM
Bogus letter.
Unable to find on Gov pages.
Letterhead missing.
Link to an official page needed.
Posted by james | October 28, 2009 05:53 AM
I think we are missing part of the message.
It should read
T(om): I Fuck You. Sincerely, Arnold Schwarzenegger
Don't discount this man's brilliance. Even the line spacing and punctuation are correct.
Posted by Paul | October 28, 2009 07:11 AM
There is nothing to hate about Arnold. Give them HELL Arnold!!! YOU GO BOY!!!!!!!!!
Posted by YOMYOM | October 28, 2009 07:26 AM
fred-
A paramecium is a one-celled organism not a little fish that bigger fish like the ones people like you and me eat. I hope you're imagining a voice speaking to you as if you are a five year old, because that's how it's intended. You see, Californians tend to be highly educated and not by Glen Beck. Also, fred (proper names are supposed to be capitalized as well as words that begin sentences) California, even with its problems is still not in need of a bailout from you and your ilk in flyover country. Now, turn off Fox News and go finish high school and be sure to retake Biology 101 and pay close attention to the Food Web part.
Posted by Cynthia | October 28, 2009 08:07 AM
Second the guvs motion. All in favor.
Posted by Hank Vreeland | October 28, 2009 08:09 AM
Hilarious! California is bankrupt and has a deficit of twenty billion dollars that they would like me to pay here in Oklahoma where we balance our books. Why is it that flyover country has to pay for excesses of California? Why is Okalhoma having to pay California's bills? It is incompetence in the California state legislature. Why isn't there water running to the farms in the central valley where 40,000 farmers need it? Instead the California state legislature has determined that water will flow out to sea unused for farming. I agree with Arnold. He shouldn't sign any bill until a bill comes through that allows farming in the central valley again. Or a bill that will balance the budget.
Posted by Steve In Tulsa | October 28, 2009 08:22 AM
Hilarious! California is bankrupt and has a deficit of twenty billion dollars that they would like me to pay here in Oklahoma where we balance our books. Why is it that flyover country has to pay for excesses of California? Why is Oklahoma having to pay California's bills? It is incompetence in the California state legislature. Why isn't there water running to the farms in the central valley where 40,000 farmers need it? Instead the California state legislature has determined that water will flow out to sea unused for farming. I agree with Arnold. He shouldn't sign any bill until a bill comes through that allows farming in the central valley again. Or a bill that will balance the budget.
Posted by Steve In Tulsa | October 28, 2009 08:24 AM
I live in SF, and I'm glad the Governator told them where to shove it.
Posted by jimbob2000 | October 28, 2009 08:39 AM
The only real fault I find with the letter is that by going this route, Arnold has simply lowered himself into the sewer that most in Frisco exist in.
Posted by RH | October 28, 2009 08:49 AM
If San Francisco doesn't want to get shitted on, they should stop electing radical assholes to represent them.
Posted by Chuck | October 28, 2009 08:54 AM
Tim, it is very simple your state is bankrupt, there is no more money to go around. Your Guvenator is simply understanding this and saying no to more spending, and matters not if you think it is a drop in the bucket, or normal way of the world.
California, live within your means, and go get real jobs!
Posted by Snow Crasher | October 28, 2009 08:57 AM
Good for Ahnuld.
If Ammiano is gonna act the way he did, he SHOULD pay a price, and the price is he loses his ability to deliver for San Francisco and his district. Since the veto letter doesn't object to the bill, per se, and the bill is indeed otherwise innocuous, the real message is to SF, "Find another sponsor for this bill, and don't expect this guy to be able to carry your water any time soon."
Posted by Marty | October 28, 2009 08:59 AM
Tim, it is very simple your state is bankrupt, there is no more money to go around. Your Guvenator is simply understanding this and saying no to more spending, and matters not if you think it is a drop in the bucket, or normal way of the world.
California, live within your means, and go get real jobs!
Posted by Snow Crasher | October 28, 2009 08:59 AM
So Mike Naple is probably the author on behalf of Arnie...people using computers should really learn how to use them.
Posted by Huh? | October 28, 2009 09:14 AM
I demand that a witch hunt be started with the intention of finding out if Arnold used left or justified alignment in his word processor! We MUST find out how deliberate this is! WHO'S WITH ME?!
But seriously... Tom Ammiano probably just wants a clean pier to "meet" sailors on.
But even more seriously... you can't be an a-hole and expect to get ahead in life.
Good move Arnie!
Posted by Eric | October 28, 2009 09:15 AM
You guys have way too much time on your hands. Everything is a conspiracy and everything is all about you, right.
Posted by wagner | October 28, 2009 09:31 AM
I'm quite liberal and a democrat, but come on, this is just funny. Get over it.
Posted by John | October 28, 2009 09:35 AM
I imagine that the letter says "Paul is dead" somewhere, perhaps if read while standing on one's head. Glad someone has time on their hands to figure all this out. Maybe if the letter is read though a mirror, more will be revealed.
Posted by Jim G | October 28, 2009 09:36 AM
Arnold does not write correspondence at that low a level... why is it that when liberals act like total jack asses no one seems to be surprised? However, when someone claims to be a conservative and finally fights back, it is the biggest insult ever. Useless and pointless liberal legislation has driven California into MASSIVE debt. Arnold (being a closet liberal) has given over to the liberals the entire time he has been in office which is why we find ourselves in the lowest rankings for k-12 schools and business practices in addition to rapidly losing tax paying citizens to more practical states. Liberals have been raping the citizens of California for so long so I agree with Arnold on this one thing by saying FUCK YOU.
Posted by You're all idiots | October 28, 2009 09:56 AM
Firstly; if this was truly intentional then I say bravo to whomever the Gov has writing his letters.
Secondly; Just because he chose to send this veto to San Francisco doesn't mean he only has beef with just San Francisco, don't flatter yourself.
Lastly; San Francisco is not CA. Therefore I don't think changes to there port has anything to do with any of the reforms the Gov has in mind. Nor do I see any improvement in San Francisco affecting anyone but San Francisco, so again don't flatter yourselves.
Posted by Wayne | October 28, 2009 10:03 AM
I laughed out loud when someone showed me the secret message. Its funny. It is also juvenile and the governor should not have vetoed the bill for such pety reasons.
With that said, Tom Amiano is a douche bag. A big one
Posted by Oyka | October 28, 2009 10:05 AM
Juvenille, yes, but screw developing a new neighborhood in SF. SF should spend their money fixing current neighborhoods from the droves of homeless people. I can't walk through any neighborhood without being panhandles, hassled, harassed or practically stepping over homeless people (most of which are not from SF). I think most of SF has run out of pity. Somebody needs to FIX THIS!!
Posted by jaymax | October 28, 2009 10:12 AM
Actually I can think of NO better uses of the governor's staff time than crafting this note to Amiano. Every second spent screwing around is time that runs out the clock on the spending year. If Arnold had spent his entire time in office doing nothing but vetoing every single dipsh*t bill to come out of that prolific CA nuthouse (aka "the Legislature"), CA would be running a surplus right now despite the deep recession. There would still be 250,000 state employees and things would still be f*cked up...but they would be LESS f*cked up.
Primum non nocere (First, do no harm).
Posted by PD Quig | October 28, 2009 10:19 AM
Congratulations to Arnold...
....and LOL at Tom Ammiano's rudeness coming back to bite him on his gay ass!
Posted by Art | October 28, 2009 10:19 AM
Actually it says "I F@CK YOU".. which if directed to Tom Ammiano means he may well have outed himself and was just flirting.
Posted by Brian S | October 28, 2009 10:19 AM
"... the language is really convoluted and it’s hard to figure out what the gov is really saying."
Huh? Convoluted? Hard to figure out? It's pretty clearly written to me, which makes me think it was unintentional. If it contained all sorts of awkward phrasings and words out of place, I'd say it was intentional. As it is, I'm really not sure.
Regardless, it is fucking hilarious.
Posted by Richard Anderson | October 28, 2009 10:27 AM
Pretending that this message, as infantile as it may have been, was intended as a big F-Off to the entire city is equally immature.
Posted by Gabriela Sabatini | October 28, 2009 10:30 AM
What part of focus on real issues does your congressmen not understand?
The Gov wants to help the entire state, not just SF.
It appears your congressman can dish it out, but can not take it in return.
Tom Ammiano = CRY BABY
Sincerely,
JGalt
Posted by J Galt | October 28, 2009 10:41 AM
get a grip, nobody cares about your city anymore, its become a joke. You refuse to enforce Federal laws, you insult our military and now your having a hissy fit because you didnt get some pork money, whaaaaa whaaa whaaa
The rest of this country doesnt care so shut the fuck up
Posted by Chris | October 28, 2009 10:44 AM
Do you understand english? What part of the Gov's letter seems unclear?
The Gov wants real reform for CA. This reform helps us all, not just SF.
It appears Mr. Ammiano can dish it out, but not take it.
Tom Ammiano = Cry Baby.
Sincerely,
J. Galt
Posted by J Galt | October 28, 2009 10:46 AM
I dont think it was intentional because Arnold would have spelled it "FOCK"
Posted by Junior | October 28, 2009 10:57 AM
lighten up Tim.
Posted by Grow up | October 28, 2009 11:04 AM
All I can say Mr. Ammiano and Mr. Redmond is the Govenor is doing a great job under difficult circumstances but thanks(For Unneccary Care Kicks Yet Overwhelmingly Unneccary)story.
Posted by Johnny C | October 28, 2009 11:12 AM
This is not a "pet project", it's a clarification of the law on port finance. The veto is even more sophomoric than the message. Killing the ability of a local "jobs, jobs, jobs" (to quote the Governor describing his number one priority, unless somebody offends him) creator harms an entire community for the precipitous act of one person. So, you're defending, "Tommy acted like a butthead, so the Governor of a State of 36 million people which is in depression and heading toward bankruptcy is justified in attacking the local economy". Two year olds are taught one bad act doesn't justify another. He is the GOVERNOR for God's sake!!! No wonder we've become a national health reform town hall....
Posted by bunky5319
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October 28, 2009 11:15 AM
To the gentleman in Tulsa and those who want to complain about CA in general: Please note that California pays far more in federal income tax than in gets in federal money. In other words, this state is supporting places like Oklahoma, not the other way around.
Funny thing -- typically the more liberal states pay more than their share in federal taxes, and the red states, which get this money, whine about taxes.
Posted by tim redmond | October 28, 2009 11:35 AM
This is worse than when Senator Obama gave the not-so-subtle finger to Senator Clinton during the campaign.
Posted by sven | October 28, 2009 11:44 AM
Grow up - Arnold is right on, and kudos to his staff for getting the RIGHT message across the Mr. "Kiss My Gay Ass" Ammiano.
Posted by Rob | October 28, 2009 11:54 AM
Let me preface my comments by saying I can't stand EITHER Ammiano or Schwarzenegger.
With that said, this is comical! I'm sure it took a few minutes to find the proper words to space the stuff out to get those letters to fall where they went.
Perhaps they'll have a job as a crossword puzzle writer once the current administration is out of office!!
Posted by Robert M. | October 28, 2009 12:01 PM
Amen Chris, IMO one of the most accurate posts in this thread. Don't forget the ILLEGAL immigrant pandering too... The rest of the country doesn't care about SF, and CA pays the the price with a soured reputation. I have lived here in CA all my life, and I'm very tired of the reputation of the state be aligned with the self-righteous liberal nutjobs in cities like SF.
The rest of the country is convinced of the granola mentality (fruits, nuts, and flakes) of the people of SF, and the less conservative among us can only shake our heads. They refuse to accept that the voters of CA vote near 50/50 Republican, 60/40 for President Obama and look where that's gotten us. In the biggest cities (the loudest politically), that number shrinks exponentially. We don't have much of a chance to become a red state, but residents specifically need to realize that 4 out of 10 people disagree with the craziness.
Posted by Dave M | October 28, 2009 12:15 PM
sorry - I obviously meant "more conservative"...
The rest of the country is convinced of the granola mentality (fruits, nuts, and flakes) of the people of SF, and the more conservative among us can only shake our heads.
I appreciate the sentiment of the letter, intentional or not. I consider myself right of center on most issues, but have no tolerance for repeat violent criminals. Soft on crime is out. Support as many "programs" as you want, but don't FORCE me to do it. Whatever donations you receive to give, that should be all you can spend. I'm center on medical marijuana. Your abortion is fine, as long as I don't have to pay for it, etc...
This Welfare State is broke, and we can't continue to GIVE, GIVE, GIVE to those who won't help themselves. Those who CAN"T help themselves should be given assistance, and their status should be monitored. when / if improvement occurs, the services should be discontinued.
Government control over banks, auto manufacturers, and health care scares the shit out of me. They can't operate the business of gov't within their budget. What makes them think they can run these? And the people elected as czars - who vets them? For crying out effing loud! Failed investors, anti-americans, criminals, NAMBLA advocates! The country is followign SF's lead right into a liberal hell.
Posted by Dave M | October 28, 2009 12:40 PM
Yes, I also read this message as "I FUCK YOU Sincerely"
Or is it a New Jersey colloquialism? "I FUCK YOUS" ???
Posted by Alleen | October 28, 2009 01:08 PM
I just love liberals' mock outrage. Puh-leeze, you guys are the masters of dirty words and inappropriate behavior. But a Republican (RINO) does it, "ow, my ears!
I love seeing him stick it to SF. Why don't you guys go pass an impeachment resolution and then tell me how serious public officials should be. And go ahead free those illegal alien criminals so they can murder more Californians. Nice job with your serious leadership there, nutroots.
Posted by J Downs | October 28, 2009 01:11 PM
I can not believe how anyone - *anyone* - can think this unintentional! You give the gubernator too little credit.
I am quite the liberal, think San Francisco is the closest thing to a city with a heart you're likely to find in the US, and can't say that there's much the guv has done that I agree with. But c'mon, this was hilarious - kudos to Arnold! (something I haven't said in a long time)
Posted by Boog | October 28, 2009 01:14 PM
As we’ve learned from his prolific action movie career, the Governator doesn’t take anyone’s guff. Ever.
http://www.mepreport.com/2009/10/arnie-vetoes-with-authority/
(With Photoshoppy Goodness)
Posted by Russ | October 28, 2009 01:16 PM
"residents specifically need to realize that 4 out of 10 people disagree with the craziness."
4 in 10 people need to realize that in America, 6 in 10 is more than enough to make the rules. There's a difference between respecting a minority position and forcing the majority to give in to a minority position.
For the 4 in 10 who don't like California's political climate, there's always North Dakota. Or Texas. Or Mississippi.
The minority needs to realize it's the minority.
Isn't that what we heard for the 8 years of the bottom-feeing Bush League administration? "He's the President. Get over it." Something like that?
Posted by DB | October 28, 2009 01:32 PM
DB - yes, but that's not valid anymore now that Obama is president. It only took a change of staff in the white house to make disagreeing with them go from UnAmerican to Patriotic.
Posted by Book | October 28, 2009 01:36 PM
John 2:
Even in that copy it says "FOAKY RAMS"
Which is still awesome for entirely different reasons.
Posted by John III | October 28, 2009 01:37 PM
if anyone bothered to check, the URL posted above that points to the supposed message from Arnie is not linked to from anywhere on the Gov's site - no telling how it got there or how it was made public -- the REAL letter from Arnie is here ... http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_1151-1200/ab_1176_vt_20091012.html ... and can be found by following the links from the home page > issues > Bill signings
take that for what its worth
Posted by John | October 28, 2009 01:39 PM
The letter is on the Governor's web site:
1. Go to http://www.gov.ca.gov
2. Click News Room
3. Click Press Releases
4. Click on 10/12/09's Legislative Update 4
5. Scroll to the third to last bill at the end.
6. Click "See attached veto message."
Posted by Finding the Letter | October 28, 2009 01:45 PM
lol tc u mad or just butthurt?
Posted by Mark Troll | October 28, 2009 01:47 PM
As a first time reader of this paper I was quite suprised that people get so heated on this topic. Suppose the message was really meant to be handwritten and not typed. Then there would be no outcry that someone was doing naughty, silly, linquistic shenanigans. But is it all realy that entertaining to read about college hijinks at the state level?
I mean this took 5 min to write...
Posted by Jay | October 28, 2009 02:08 PM
Pfffffff ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by r0b3rt | October 28, 2009 02:24 PM
I like how you say it would take hours to come up with that. Doesn't really say much about you. I could literally come up with 100x variations in 2 minutes. Haha get a grip.
Posted by Mowrey | October 28, 2009 03:18 PM
DB - Like I said - I'm born & raised here. I wouldn't move for any anonymous poster, or even a few million like you. Won't you be my neighbor?
A majority does not necessarily make the best decisions for the group, correct? Using the last 8 years as your yardstick, you'd probably agree with that. My take is different than yours, and there are things I wish had been done differently too. Like I said earlier, I'm slightly right of center, not blindly right. Although, I'd rather be in the right. :-)
We are a nation of laws. If SF "laws" made sense, they'd be less controversial. They (liberal State politicians) make "laws" that break (Federal) laws... therein lies the rub, IMO. SF has made a mockery of the law lately, and lots of people are sick of it. Illegal means illegal, and not just with immigration, punishment should be swift and just.
Best statement ever - you made a great argument for me. "There's a difference between respecting a minority position and forcing the majority to give in to a minority position." Remember this position, and apply it to the crazy immigration law(breaker)s, gay marriage proposals (get it?), criminal re(lease)form policies, etc. Most Californians didn't agree, did they? Is SF letting them go? Nope.
Posted by Dave M | October 28, 2009 03:54 PM
Posted by Sean | October 27, 2009 05:42 PM
The 'tweaking' and issuance of bonds are one of the larger reasons CA is in the budgetary meltdown/crisis it is in down. There really is no proper verb to express the storm of crap we are in right now. This state needs to STOP SPENDING MONEY and STOP ISSUING DEBT.
It really is that simple. They need to lower the corporate tax rate too so companies actually want to be headquartered here and create JOBS. It's not a mystery why they all have been fleeing to Texas and Nevada.
I know corporations and business is 'evil' but when they have more money to spend they really do spend it on creating more jobs. It's really not a mystery. Again, the reason why Texas is in the black. It's one of the very few states with positive job growth. People want to be in CA they just can no longer AFFORD to remain in CA.
Posted by chaos | October 27, 2009 06:28 PM
A gold star for you! The houses will be packed with Dems for years to come so I see no reason for the reaming to not continue. This state will be bankrupt inside of 10 years and will become a Federal holding like Washington DC is in my lifetime.
Posted by DB | October 28, 2009 01:32 PM
You would have made a great plantation owner. I think the point you are missing is that the 'minority' are telling you that you are driving off a cliff because you are too dim to look ahead out the windshield to see it coming. There is a big difference between that and disagreeing on some 'social justice' issues. Economics don't lie. We are bankrupting ourselves with entitlement spending only and idiot denies this.
Posted by manny | October 28, 2009 04:00 PM
Ugh - I responded to responses and completely lost the topic… State funds should be spent far more wisely than they are at this time. My opinion - Education is far more important than pet projects. Our state is broke... If Ammiano wants to restore a neighborhood, he should find a developer who will do it. Overtly liberal policies should be funded by like minded individuals, not forced on people who think differently (left or right). If not enough people agree, the program should not not fly. And I think the letter is funny, intentional or not. Anyway, sorry for the hijack.
Myself, I get heated because SF is so sure the world looks to it for "progressive" policy that they're too blind to see that most of the country thinks their city is insane. People inside SF get heated because, well because they're insane, :-D and if they stomp their feet and scream long enough, they get attention... kind of like my 2 year old.
Posted by Dave M | October 28, 2009 04:00 PM
I agree with the overtly expressed sentiment in the governator's letter.
There are much bigger problems to solve, and until the legislature and the Governor can work those out, stop wasting time with little personal pork bills. Grow the balls to build a veto-proof majority on a tax hike or to make some substantive restructuring of the state's fiscal appetites. One way or the other: FIX IT!
And until you do, no lollipops for your constituents.
Posted by Greg | October 28, 2009 04:19 PM
Tim Redmond, you are a douchebag. The Governor hit the nail on the head, stop wasting taxpayers money and get down to the real issues that affect all Californians.
Oh and if you didn't get that, YOU'RE A DOUCHEBAG.
Posted by rob | October 28, 2009 04:31 PM
i'm glad the governor stated the fact so succinctly. we have an entirely inept legislature - remember the budget crisis? we almost went bankrupt, because they couldn't get their acts together (damn 2/3rds majority). someone has to tell the citizens and the legislature.. and while we're at it, why not have fun with it. it is kinda fun, no? at least arnold still has a sense of humor.
Posted by susie (sf citizen) | October 28, 2009 04:41 PM
Not that I am a fan of the Governator...but when a stupid Assemblyman insults the one person in the state who can veto anything and everything going through his desk, that's the fault of the dumb@$$ assemblyman. Arnold was not elected by San Francisco, he was elected by SoCal. You want him to help you, don't insult him. Play nice. The child named Amiano needs to learn that he can't say just anything he wants....there are concequences and his dear city is paying for it because of his lack of control over his pie hole.
Posted by Archie (Bay Area resident) | October 28, 2009 04:43 PM
Bravo, Arnold. Teach those ultra liberals a lesson! CA is always leading the nation.
- A Silicon Valley long time democrat, and Obama voter.
Posted by Tom | October 28, 2009 04:58 PM
I retract my BS call. I followed the instructions provided by Finding the Letter. It's honest to god right there.
Posted by james | October 28, 2009 05:26 PM
what do you expect fron the land of Fruits and Nuts?
Posted by frank | October 28, 2009 05:29 PM
what do you expect fron the land of Fruits and Nuts?
Posted by frank | October 28, 2009 05:29 PM
Well, I'm glad that calling me a douchebag moves this discussion forward.
Remember: This bill would NOT cost the state any money. It's all about how San Francisco can finance its own projects. This has nothing to do with paying for education, or "pet projects" or any of that rot.
By the way, the governor is the one with the "pet projects." Killing the VLF was the most expensive thing any governor has ever done in CA history, $27.5 billion to date.
Posted by tim redmond | October 28, 2009 05:37 PM
arnold has said repeatedly that he would veto bills that are not substantive while larger issues are not being addressed...and that's what he did here.
the letter isn't 'convoluted' at all, it's very polite and direct. looking for dirty words in it is incredibly juvenile. (although my guess is that you loved it every time obama scratched his face with 'the finger') you're really reaching with this one. arnold is trying to force the legislature to get serious and you are playing word games.
Posted by el polacko | October 28, 2009 05:39 PM
Wow that's rad. It's a grammar school version of the Thomas Jefferson code in the news a while back, but this code was meant to be cracked by crackheads.
Posted by Dave | October 28, 2009 08:33 PM
I'm guessing it was just one of those God working in strange ways thingies. He wanted to see if some trippy retard would notice. Of course, he already knew the answer.
Posted by john b | October 29, 2009 12:47 AM
So let's get this straight: You're "glad to see [Ammiano]deciding not to play so nice", but you whine like a girl when the Governator gives as good as he gets. What a hypocrite!
Posted by Stevie Nichts | October 29, 2009 04:46 AM
Why are all these wingnuts showing up mocking liberals for being offended?
Who's offended? As a liberal I thought the Governator's statement was hilarious.
He's smarter and funnier than the ignorant right-wing commenters on this site.
Posted by Singe | October 29, 2009 06:34 AM
And if you play it backwards into a mirror, there's a message from the Devil.
Posted by Kent Connally | October 29, 2009 06:52 AM
"
As a first time reader of this paper I was quite suprised that people get so heated on this topic. Suppose the message was really meant to be handwritten and not typed. Then there would be no outcry that someone was doing naughty, silly, linquistic shenanigans. But is it all realy that entertaining to read about college hijinks at the state level?
I mean this took 5 min to write..."
absolutely aggree
Posted by Cap | October 29, 2009 08:00 AM
If you look at the "S" of Sincerely and the "A" of Arnold just below it, you can also imagine it stands for "State Assembly"
So the whole message reads: "Fuck You State Assembly"
LOL
Posted by AV | October 29, 2009 12:28 PM
CA. is a failed state, so who cares?
Have some fun while the ship is going down!
Posted by jsmith | October 29, 2009 01:11 PM
I think the letter would have been better if it just read Fuck You! God, CA is so incredibly stupid, and the Govenator is right to shove it back at you! Yes, in small works CA, FU!
Posted by jeteye | October 29, 2009 02:18 PM
Such a childish approach from the media.
Hell if it was anyone else they wouldn't have done it.
Unnecessary comments like oh he said Fuck you are not
Tomorrow's news.. it is yesterday's.
Too many things are going wrong in CA right now
However people need to stop being such children
Enough is enough.
Finally I think we can see that there have been many
Understandable cases of stress lately.
Consider all things that the politicians are not gods
Knowledge is something that they find on their own.
Upon reading this you will get my message.
Preparation is the key.
Posted by K.H. | October 29, 2009 05:24 PM
you can do it even
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Posted by Jim Steele | October 29, 2009 06:31 PM
Good. Fuck you San Francisco.
Oakland Rules.
Posted by Jason | October 29, 2009 10:42 PM
When I heard about this a few days ago on NPR they had a professor of cryptography and mathematics on the air and they asked him the likelihood of this being coincidence as well as the difficulty of coming up with the message. I remember he said the likelihood of this happening purely by chance was something like 5.5 in a trillion.
Posted by Andi | October 30, 2009 12:26 AM
"You see, Californians tend to be highly educated"
What? They're all stoned at school?
Or just the teachers?
There's only one Political Party, but it wears many different labels.
Politics is the problem.
More politics just makes the problem bigger and more expensive to maintain and repair.
You are arguing about Politicians as if they actually represent you, when even you know (and you do know), that the only people they represent, are the people that have bought and paid for them.
Our Governments (the solution, not the problem) have been kidnapped by criminals, yet you seem to insist upon blaming the victim instead of the criminals, and you keep rewarding the criminals by putting them into positions of power.
It's way past time we all rescued our Governments, and locked up the criminals. We are being deliberately divided against each other, and all it does is keep the criminals on the gravy train.
Enough, is surely, enough?
Posted by Pork Barrel | October 30, 2009 03:16 AM
This bill would have raised property taxes and lost jobs, it may have made a few more dollars for the city the first year, but the lost revenue this bill would have caused would be enough to negate any benifit to anyone. For once the governator did the right thing, even if he did it in a somewhat offcolor way.
Posted by ZK | October 30, 2009 03:28 AM
Yay Arnold.. This is enough to make me start liking the guy. Somebody needs to stand up say no once in awhile to Legislators who out for personal gain.
People its time for us to take off the blinders and realize that we need to look past the right, past the left and stand in the middle for whats good for our country and its people.
Posted by Desert Dan | October 30, 2009 08:21 AM
"Posted by Andi | October 30, 2009 12:26 AM
You are arguing about Politicians as if they actually represent you, when even you know (and you do know), that the only people they represent, are the people that have bought and paid for them.
Our Governments (the solution, not the problem) have been kidnapped by criminals, yet you seem to insist upon blaming the victim instead of the criminals, and you keep rewarding the criminals by putting them into positions of power."
I live in Chicago. 'Nuff said.
You people crack me up.
Posted by TC | October 30, 2009 09:37 AM
Interesting letter. Wonder if they got the idea from a subversive poem written by political activist JOSE LACABA and published by a crony of Ferdinand Marcos during the second year of martial law in the Philippines (1973):
PROMETHEUS UNBOUND
Mars shall glow tonight
Artemis is out of sight.
Rust in the twilight sky
Colors a bloodshot eye,
Or shall I say that dust
Sunders the sleep of the just?
Hold fast to the gift of fire!
I am rage! I am wrath! I am ire!
The vulture sits on my rock,
Licks at the chains that mock
Emancipation's breath,
Reeks of death, death, death.
Death shall not unclench me.
I am earth, wind, and sea!
Kisses bestow on the brave
That defy the damp of the grave
And strike the chill hand of
Death, with the flaming sword of love.
Orion stirs. The vulture
Retreats from the hard, pure
Thrusts of the spark that burns,
Unbounds, departs, returns
To pluck out of death's fist
A god who dared to resist.
(printed in Focus Magazine, Manila, 1973)
The first letters read downwards in English translation as, "Marcos Hitler Dictator Puppet". Marcos was generally considered by activists as a US puppet.
Posted by orion_1648 | October 30, 2009 10:23 AM
when your local rep shouts at the governor to kiss his ass, you gotta expect this.
he, not ahnuld, is the one who cost SF this cash
Posted by ammiano costs sf real money | October 30, 2009 11:40 AM
LMAO!!! Arnold. With or without an endoskeleton, he's still terminating 'em.
-Stormhammer-
Posted by Stormhammer | October 30, 2009 12:59 PM
I actually thought it was funny. I never thought he will come up with a response like this. He'll be BACK!
Posted by EC | October 30, 2009 07:27 PM
I find it childish that you put A.S. down for this, yet you title your article "....FUCK YOU"....on a main page that school age children look at when doing research or news essays. NICE GOING-ASSHOLE! At least Arnold was a LITTLE discret and didn't send it in blatent caps on a main web page! GROW UP! If they can dish it....why can't they take it? Oh, you must play the blame game too, nothing ever your fault, not because of your actions, always blame someone else. Funny how this doesn't want me to post.....7 failed attempts...hmmmmmm
Posted by kk | October 30, 2009 07:33 PM
The people of California do not deserve to treated that way...
Oh, wait...I guess they do.
The people of California are the geniuses that chose to kick out an incumbent governor before his term was up so they could install a Teutonic bodybuilder?
They CHOSE to elect Arnold Fucking Schwarzeneggar as their governor.
Next time, California...next time you should consider...I don't know...how 'bout getting your collective shit together and actually think about who you're voting for and NOT electing B-Movie actors or bodybuilders to public office?!
Posted by Ha! | October 30, 2009 07:37 PM
Are you kidding me? Did you make this up? Noone is going to believe this. I certainly don't believe a word of this. And you posted it? Ah, just another college student blog.
Posted by Greg | October 30, 2009 07:40 PM
Are you kidding me? Did you make this up? Noone is going to believe this. I certainly don't believe a word of this. And you posted it? Ah, just another college student blog.
Posted by Greg | October 30, 2009 07:42 PM
I am glad I still live in a decent moral state and neighborhood where the newspaper would never print such
a filthy word for public view. Of course the paper is in the Sodom and Gomorra of America where homosexuality is an accepted way of life. I see a total lack of common decency in San Francisco. It is no wonder California is losing population. I just hope and pray they don't come to West Virginia. Montani Semper Libri
Posted by George Douglas | October 30, 2009 07:51 PM
The lefties are outraged? Please spare me. Look what they have done to this city, State and trying to do to the nation. They have been, and will always be the greatest source of poverty, crime and suffering the world have to endur
Posted by HOMES | October 30, 2009 08:00 PM
What crap, need soap to wash your mouth
Posted by PJV | October 30, 2009 08:10 PM
Total coincidence; no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Reading too much into the Govenor's letter.
Posted by Draw984 | October 30, 2009 08:13 PM
I just checked Barack Obama's name. Apparently he has body odor.
Posted by tommyzax | October 30, 2009 08:18 PM
California should stop giving Welfare to all the illegals who snuck over here during the night, and stand in line early the next morning. The state gives them the moon and stars. I was witness to it at the Santa Rosa Welfare office, and the San Diego area offices. The Sacramento ones are the same. The illegals know when welfare new sign up day is. They just come over the night before. They're not here to work, just collect welfare, or commit welfare fraud and work too. I wish they'd all go home and take their criminal ways and their gangs with them.
Posted by cd | October 30, 2009 09:35 PM
This is Detective John Kimbel, Im' a police officer. i want to ask you a series of questions.
ONE! Is the length of the letter to assembly uncommonly short or long? TWO! is the format of the letter uncommon for a governer? THREE! is the style of the letter uncommon for Arnold Himself?
Things to Think about.
Posted by Kindergarten Cop | October 31, 2009 01:40 AM
Arnold is bada$$, both on and off the big screen. I bet by now he hates those govt bastards as much as the public does now that he's gotten years of first-hand whiffs of their bull$hit. Rock on Arnold! You tell 'em.
Posted by anonymous coward | October 31, 2009 07:23 AM
Ammiano is an immature brat. Heckling someone giving a speech is how he hopes to curry favor. San Francisco is getting screwed by Ammiano.
Posted by nob hill | October 31, 2009 11:19 AM
The letter was well-deserved and apropos, especially considering the recipient.
Ammiano is a disgrace to himself, his party, his lifestyle, and his species.
The state and local governments are in the midst of HUGE deficits. Arnold attempted to fix, once and for all, the surmounting deficits resulting from the politics of selfishness. Labor unions and Demon Rat politicians teaming up for a mutual reach-around.
It's time someone said NO to any more spending, no matter how "worthwhile" it seems. It's time to get this state's fiscal house in order - the very meaning of the word "economics".
The legislature rebuked Arnold's attempts to restore REASON to pay, benefits, and spending. The unions used considerable power and money to drive us deeper. They are digging a debt hole to China which might actually save some transportation costs.
Ammiano will obviously console himself over this failure by smoking some pole.
Posted by POWinCA | October 31, 2009 11:37 AM
I live in AZ and all I can say to CA is THANK YOU! Because of your ultra-liberal ("Kiss my Gay Ass") policies "your" businesses have been relocating to AZ in droves! We have ex-CA employers setting up shop here on a daily basis.
As long as you consider Ammiano's behavior acceptable in a public official you will forever be mired in debt. Debt that conservatives just don't feel obliged to pay for.
That is exactly the problem in CA. You have zero sense of personal responsibility. Even as morally and fiscally bankrupt as you already are, this bill was designed to allow you to borrow still more money! Money the next generation will have to pay back.
Your outrage over a veiled "Fuck You" should be nothing compared to the outrage you should feel over a legislator trying to find even more ways to go into debt.
So enjoy! Rome is burning.
Posted by SmilnJak | October 31, 2009 12:19 PM
to :Tim Redmond
FUCK YOU!
Posted by Pendos USA | October 31, 2009 02:01 PM
Amiano started it. San Fransisco simply got caught in the return fire. A nice debate that would never be resolved is which side of this deserves the blame. I think it's pretty amusing actually.
Posted by Michael Swaythe | October 31, 2009 04:43 PM
Hey George Douglas" Don't worry we won't come live with you inbred morons. But tell me, Senator Byrd will die someday and how will you live without all the Federal Money(which comes mostly from Blue States)flowing in?
Posted by athEIst | October 31, 2009 08:17 PM
I do not mean to break into your blog, but I must say as much as the rest of the country looks at California as different, I am happy to see so many vocal on this simple issue.
AND I READ IT .....
Posted by Scott Gray | November 1, 2009 01:41 AM
"...substantive bill here that would have helped San Francisco..."
Oh, please, spare us. The bill for Pier 70 redevelopment, while important to some (mostly to the pocketbooks of the contractors who get to do the work), there *are* more important issues to deal with. That money could be put to better use.
Posted by digitalmouse | November 1, 2009 04:17 AM
I hope Tim Redmond skates into an aids tree for posting this stupid article.
I want 2 minutes of my life back, asshole.
Posted by Ryan | November 1, 2009 09:33 AM
Oh and in response to:
George Douglas:
"I am glad I still live in a decent moral state and neighborhood where the newspaper would never print such
a filthy word for public view. Of course the paper is in the Sodom and Gomorra of America where homosexuality is an accepted way of life. I see a total lack of common decency in San Francisco. It is no wonder California is losing population. I just hope and pray they don't come to West Virginia. Montani Semper Libri"
You're a moron and I have no idea how you even got a computer. Put your helmet back on and enjoy another inbred evening in West Virginia.
Posted by Ryan | November 1, 2009 09:39 AM
Whether you're a democrat, republican, or independent, I don't see how anyone can really be upset about this, when there are so many more important issues, like the way corporations are screwing us and both parties are getting paid to let them do it. It's kind of funny, actually. So what if a politician tells another politician F-U? If they are supposed to represent us, shouldn't they be allowed to use the same language as we do? And why is it that nobody thinks that this can be a coincidence? Haven't any of you heard the theory about how a million monkeys on typewriters for a million years might, by chance, write a page of Shakespeare?
Posted by Mark Baland | November 2, 2009 01:42 PM
Whoooooo hooooo!!! Juvenal or not I'm happy about his response! If you can't put major issues on the table and deal with them then F-U-C-K Y-O-U SF! Do the damn duties you signed up for and quit messing around with more trivial issues, get your priorities straight people!
Ashley
P.S. I am now back behind our Governor!
( oh and to the people who obviously have a stick up their asses, our president smoked weed, called kanye a jackass, our governor said fuck you... get the hell over it its 2009 and we don't live in leave it to beaver times any more and if you don't like it change your depends, take a sleeping pill and get off the internet. ;) That is all. ) ;D
Posted by Ashley | November 3, 2009 12:06 PM
Whoooooo hooooo!!! Juvenal or not I'm happy about his response! If you can't put major issues on the table and deal with them then F-U-C-K Y-O-U SF! Do the damn duties you signed up for and quit messing around with more trivial issues, get your priorities straight people!
Ashley
P.S. I am now back behind our Governor!
( oh and to the people who obviously have a stick up their asses, our president smoked weed, called kanye a jackass, our governor said fuck you... get the hell over it its 2009 and we don't live in leave it to beaver times any more and if you don't like it change your depends, take a sleeping pill and get off the internet. ;) That is all. ) ;D
Posted by Ashley | November 3, 2009 12:07 PM
Hey city and count of San Francisco:
Fuck you.
Posted by Johansbutt | November 3, 2009 03:28 PM
no wonder you guys keep electing clowns like nancy pelosi.
Posted by ramon chenloo | November 4, 2009 08:46 AM
i DUGG this for the humorous appeal of the comments. Come on, ppl, what a thing to get in a feather about! No wonder we aren't addressing the crucial issues that, btw, Schwarzenegger is asking his team to address. Just like that famous guy, we are fiddling while Rome burns around us.
Posted by hallie | November 4, 2009 12:13 PM
Check out the November 9, 2009 issue of Newsweek magazine, page 18.
Mathematician Robert "Lewand put the odds that it was a coincidence at about 5.5 in 1 trillion."
That should settle the coincidence conspiracies.
Posted by Mario de Zuma | November 5, 2009 09:37 AM
Actually I think the story is quite simple
Arnold or his evil henchmen (whoever writes/ sends etc his messages and official notes) simply wrote the beginning of the message (which is quite normal IMO). Then they just added "can kicking" sentence(admit it, it is quite odd expression for an official note), because someone simply noticed it'd make "F! U!" message.
I really doubt someone put effort into this from the very beginning. (Or, even if so, it'd take what? 5 minutes?)
Posted by tnt | November 6, 2009 08:24 AM
Sounds like you assholes in SF got exactly what you deserve... a resounding "fuck you" message.
I don't spend a dime in San Francisco. Go ahead and be righteous about being perverted leftist swine. Lose 30% of the market for goods and services (as you lose when those of us who are not leftist dupes avoid spending any money in your moron-city-state) and you end up like Havana... a slum in a warm climate populated by hard-worn sex workers, run by a handful of leftist opportunist career politicians who tell those stupid enough to live there and pay taxes how lucky they are to be screwed.
Thanks, Arnold, for speaking truth to idiocy. Adios, San Francisco.
Posted by Patty Hearst | November 7, 2009 08:23 AM
Get over it, you sissy whack jobs have succeeded in destroying my home state with your panty-waste economically retarded legislation which has destroyed the job base and have turned California into a cesspool. California, especially SF is the laughing-stock of the country, emulated or admired by no one. Enjoy it while you can Libtards, 2010 is coming! Yee-Haw!
Posted by Reagan Lives! | November 7, 2009 06:36 PM
The fact that the memo may or may not contain an expletive, it still doesn't take away from the important fact that the Governor is totally correct in his assessment.
Posted by Joe Schmoe | November 9, 2009 04:23 PM
That is absolutely hysterical !!! I love it!!!
Posted by Mary | November 11, 2009 03:00 PM
I love this story
Look at it this way. I write acrostics all the time.
Over my history notes, in fact. To you people who have
vendettas against Arnie now because of this, loosen up!
Especially if its just because of this acrostic alone.
A coincidence this is definitely not, but still,
cut the guy a break! He is just trying to put some
refreshment into the hum-drum of daily politics.
Of all of you, who wouldn't do this if given the chance?
So he cursed, so what? If you don't want to see curses,
then don't look for hidden messages in things.
Its not like he said it on TV or anything. And the
cause of this was also important - he hated this bill!
So chill out. I love acrostics, as you can see.
Man. That took all of three and a half minutes. I timed it. Acrostics are not hard, and people should look for them a little more often (and write them a little more often, too).
I really hope I got the formatting right on this. Here goes:
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Posted by StephanJade | November 23, 2009 07:04 AM
NO NO NO its says T.I FUCK YOU... like the rapper TI i think he has something to do with this.
Posted by Rapper Anon | November 30, 2009 10:06 PM