Will Esbernd support Lee?

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As the tom toms grew louder at the Chronicle and in the Willie Brown/Rose Pak community for Interim Mayor Ed Lee to run for the full term as mayor, I emailed two impertinent questions to my district supervisor Sean Elsbernd:

1. Would you have nominated Ed Lee for interim mayor had you known he would consider running for the job?

2. Will you endorse him if he does decide to run for mayor?

As a longtime West Portal resident, I've always gotten annoyed at how Elsbernd (and other supervisors) love to play the neighborhood game back in their district -- but when the chips are down on a power structure issue, they go down to City Hall and vote with Willie Brown and the downtown gang. Which is what happened in January on the critical vote for mayor when the Willie Brown/Rose Pak forces worked a quiet play to knock out the progressive candidates (Sheriff Mike Hennessey and former Mayor Art Agnos) and put in City Administrator  Ed Lee, a Willie Brown ally.

Elsbernd was happy to nominate Lee and told us at the time that he had done so because he wanted an interim mayor who would not run in November.

In his email answer to me, Elsbernd wrote, “I believe the benefits of that strategy have proven correct (e.g. the overall budget process and its unanimous approval, and the unanimous approval of the consensus and comprehensive pension/health care charter amendment.“

So what about today when Lee seems more and more poised to run?

Elsburn noted that he has not endorsed anyone, but that “I have been most attracted to the candidacies of City Attorney Dennis Herrera and former Supervisors Alioto-Pier and Bevan Dufty.” He said that these three have the “right combination of qualifications, experience, intelligence, skills and integrity to serve as mayor.”

So what's his out? “Should Mayor Lee run for election, I would only consider endorsing his effort under one circumstance—if, and only if, I was convinced that without his candidacy, Sen. Leland Yee would be elected. That is, if I see that no one else can beat Sen, Yee other than Mayor Lee, then I would support a Mayor Lee campaign. At this point, I'm not convinced of that—I still think any one of the three I mentioned above could beat Sen. Yee.”

Well, that's Elsbernd back in his district doing his neighborhood routine at the Village Grill, a favorite Elsbernd breakfast place. Elsbernd has still left himself a way to do what he said he was dead set against doing: going along with Willie Brown and  Rose Pak and  helping Lee become the fulltime mayor. Bring back Quentin Kopp and John Barbagelata. B3

 

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Your Eminence, you say:

“Which is what happened in January on the critical vote for mayor when the Willie Brown/Rose Pak forces worked a quiet play to knock out the progressive candidates (Sheriff Mike Hennessey and former Mayor Art Agnos) and put in City Administrator Ed Lee, a Willie Brown ally.”

Two questions:

(1) Didn’t the board of supes (including the progressive Three Guys Club) vote unanimously to appoint Ed Lee mayor?

(2) Why don't you, or anybody else at The Guardian, care about who will endorse John Avalos?

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 1:36 pm

Your Eminence, you say:

"Two Questions for the Ayatollah Brugmann"

Is that your idea of civility? Referring to Bruce B. as Ayatollah and Your Eminence is civil discourse? I should think not. It's also name-calling and you have repeatedly chastised others on this forum for name-calling.

You have repeatedly and sanctimoniously self-touted yourself as the model of civility, intelligence, intellect and reason. But what I see is a vessel full of juvenile taunts, contradictions and double-standards. You have one set of standards for others and another set of opposite standards for yourself, and as an "Ayatollah" you are quick to critique others but never yourself or acknowledge criticism directed at you. If one does not agree with your pronouncements from on high and your world view, one becomes subject to name-calling such as, "Ayatollah." Is that reasonable? Let me use the term on you and see what you think about it. Isn't the right-wing fortunate to have among their camp, Ayatollah Arthur Evans? How does it feel to be called that?

Let's be civil, sensible and reasonable.

Posted by Artor Evons on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 3:14 pm

It indicates someone extremely learned in the Shiite clerical system.

Posted by Lucretia "Secretia" Snapples on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 3:32 pm

But that's not how Ayatollah Arthur Evans is using the term, and you know that. Or are you Arthur Evans, rushing to defend yourself with another "secretion?"

The term Ayatollah is being used here to imply a dictator.

Let's be sensible and reasonable.

Posted by Artor Evons on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 4:09 pm

Let's be sensible and reasonable - and attempt a modicum of intelligence too.

Posted by Lucretia "Secretia" Snapples on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

Thank you so very much for your response. One comment follows:

You say:

"Let's be sensible and reasonable - and attempt a modicum of intelligence too."

I agree. But where exactly would one see those traits featured in any of your "secretions?" Could you kindly cite examples?

Your writing style is quite different than that of Ayatollah Arthur Evans. Using different writing styles is what I would guess a person pretending to be two different people would do, to try to fool others into thinking one person is two different people.

Let's be reasonable, civil, sensible, intelligent and use our intellect, and if what I've seen from either of you is considered "intelligence," we are in trouble.

Posted by Artor Evons on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 5:08 pm

"Let me use the term [Ayatollah] on you and see what you think about it."

- Artor Evons

Ayatollahs head sects. Got any extras lying around?

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 4:33 pm

Ayatollahs are the Shia Muslim equivalent of Bishops or Cardinals.

There are between 150-200 million Shia, hardly a sect.

Posted by marcos on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

"There are between 150-200 million Shia, hardly a sect."

- Marc Salomon

There are over one billion Catholics in the world. They're a sect.

You're accustomed to associate sects with small numbers because of the diminishing size of our local progressive sect here in SF. But other sects in other parts of the world have been more successful.

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 9:48 pm

So you admit that the use of the word 'sect' is meaningless as if everyone is in a sect, then nobody is in a sect.

Posted by marcos on Jul. 27, 2011 @ 6:53 am

have voted differently six months ago if he'd known something that was in any event unknowable at the time.

It only matters whether Lee would make a good Mayor. (Or even a good candidate)And so far, nobody seems to hate him which immediately places him above most others.

Posted by Walter on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 1:54 pm

Nothing he said would have made your happy. Your blog is the electronic equivalent of the old neighborhood kook who's always screeching at kids to "get off my lawn."

Posted by Lucretia "Secretia" Snapples on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 1:55 pm

Let's not forget that Elsbernd got to where he was the same way.

The previous holder of the office resigned. Newsom picked him out -a loyal hack, a nobody -out of obscurity as some faceless bureaucrat. He gets appointed and then the machine goes to work creating a candidate out of an empty suit. By election time he runs as an incumbent -one without much of a record to run on, but one with big name recognition nonetheless, thanks to a professional, if hastily constructed, astroturf campaign.

Gee, does this story sound familiar?

Posted by Greg on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 2:14 pm

an election is less important than what Greg personally thinks about him?

Posted by Walter on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 2:27 pm

Of which I am a constituent. He personally returns calls to his office (vs. David Campos - who can't be bothered to respond to calls or emails), shows up at neighborhood events (even when he disagrees with the organizations throwing them) and is extremely responsive - which is why he's won by such large margins again and again.

Posted by Lucretia "Secretia" Snapples on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

"a nobody -out of obscurity ... does this story sound familiar?"

- Greg

Yes, it does sound familiar. It describes how David Chiu was made prez of the board of supes by its progressive faction in January 2009, even though he had never before held elective office.

Thanks for the reminder.

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

Sean is my supe as well and he has done little for his district. I expect Sean will work with some special interest group after he terms out.

I could care less who Sean wants to be Mayor.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 2:55 pm

question 3. How betrayed does Elsbernd feel that Willie Brown supported Lee and not him?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 3:36 pm

At what point did Sean tear down from his office wall that stupid framed napkin signed by Willie Brown that said in ballpoint that Elsbernd should run for mayor some day?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 3:39 pm

Just curious - since you've posted three posts so far detailing the interior decorations of his office and alleged details on Elsbernd from a mayor who hasn't been in office for nearly a decade.

Posted by Lucretia "Secretia" Snapples on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 4:53 pm

Visiting the office of an elected representative and making note of the performance of said representative while in office could be described as "stalking" by only a mentally incompetent troll such as yourself.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 5:11 pm

In "secretia's" mind, looking at someone across the street at the other bus stop while waiting for the bus is considered "stalking." I think the medical term for this is called paranoia.

Let's be reasonable, sensible, civil and intelligent and not use words intended to inflame, and maybe get mental help when clearly needed.

Posted by Artor Evons on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

Is not "reasonable, sensible, civil and intelligent."

But then again I don't think that's your aim - although I do find your posts quite hilarious.

Posted by Lucretia "Secretia" Snapples on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 6:25 pm

I've visited City Hall many times but I can't name a single portrait in the mayor's office. Shows you that I concentrate on substance and not fluff.

Posted by Lucretia "Secretia" Snapples on Jul. 26, 2011 @ 6:22 pm