The pope's supporters are truly horrible

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Sorry, your holiness, but nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the astonishing ad that ran in The New York Times defending the pope. Maureen Dowd picked it up in a nicely savage column that suggests the holy father undergo an inquisition. I agree that medieval practices are about what's needed for the Vicar of Christ -- but his supporters are even worse. Here's Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, who bought space on the Times oped page to spill a screed of mind-boggling ignorance and hate:

The Times continues to editorialize about the "pedophilia crisis," when all along it’s been a homosexual crisis. Eighty percent of the victims of priestly sexual abuse are male and most of them are post-pubescent. While homosexuality does not cause predatory behavior, and most gay priests are not molesters, most of the molesters have been gay.

Yes, this guy, who leads a major Catholic organization, is really arguing in public that the problem isn't that abusive priests were protected by the church; it's that there are (gasp) homosexuals in the priesthood.

This isn't an April Fool's joke. The guy really wrote that. It really ran in a major American newspaper in 2010. And unless I missed something, not one leading voice in the Catholic Church -- not one bishop, or cardinal, or Vatican official, or even an intellectual leader in the Church -- has stepped forward to publicly criticize Donohue.

Let's bring back the Spanish Inquisition.

Comments

The Pope is nothing but a figure head. He does what he is told, just as the rest of the group does\ what he tells them. They don't like the Masons because it is a secret society, not Catholic yet the Knights are a secret society, so is Opus Dei, so are the Legioniaires of Christ..

The Masons are very widely involved with the Vatican Bank....Why is this? The whole Christian church thing, all the rules and regs have been man made. If the pope wants to keep his lifestyle, he'll have to bend to the "banker boys"

I'll bet some Roman Catholic don't even know who I'm speaking about.

Does any one remember Pope John Paul I ??? He was murdered because he wanted to change the bad that was going on at the Vatican. He wanted to give all the money to the poor. He was murdered!!! The people bought the lies they told as they all have been so generationally brainwashed it's pathetic. What a HOAX, I'll bet there's not a Christian bone in any of these men. Roman Catholics are of the Devil unless they get out and get out soon. Our Lord has revealed this Evil and you'd better open your ears and eyes, other wise you are driving the get a way car in this Crime Against Humanity...

Posted by glorybe1929 on Apr. 01, 2010 @ 11:15 am

I have yet to see such a cogent, succinct, or accurate a statement surround all this.

You sir, are well informed. The murder of Albino was indeed the start of the current rot...

I would feel privileged to be able to exchange an email with you.

Please reply if you feel you would like to do that.

Sincerely
Conrad Noll.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 02, 2010 @ 4:54 pm

have decided after years of trying to make peace with the catholic church that not only the catholic instituion but the catholic religion and clergy/hierarchy and unfortuantely laity is mentally ill..
once i came to that conclusion a great peace came over me and i was able to turn away from their constant psychotic drama and find the new life that christ promised outside of that mess.

i no longer wait for others to see the light and that is another burden off me as i know that those who stay are mentally ill and belong there.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 01, 2010 @ 11:57 am

You're going to have to actually debunk Mr Donahue, not merely point out how distasteful his propositions are.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 01, 2010 @ 1:00 pm

What exactly is it that Mr. Donohue said that is incorrect? The largest part of the scandal has not been a pedophilia scandal but a euphobilia scandal. It's abusive homosexual priests preying on post pubescent teen age boys. And as Mr. Donohue pointed out that does not mean all homosexual priests are abusers. But the vast majority of abusers were homosexuals. Where is Mr. Donohue incorrect?

Posted by Guest on Apr. 01, 2010 @ 2:55 pm

That can't be real?? Can it? Did that really run? That is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. i grew up catholic, went to catholic school, was personally confronted by a pedophile priest who was later moved to two other high schools where he continued to abuse young boys. this religion is dead. give it up, please.

Posted by Guest jfk on Apr. 02, 2010 @ 1:24 am

If memory serves, his "league" consists mostly of a 350,000 person email list. (they have about a quarter million "paid members" and 4 staff members--says something).

Cool

I have 6,000 contacts in my AOL, 5200 FaceBook friends, 8500 MySpace contacts. Can I be on cable TV all the time too?

Posted by Johnny Wendell on Apr. 02, 2010 @ 6:27 am

The issue isn't consensual sex between adults, it's the church's endless shuffling of child abusers from locale to locale to avoid prosecution.

Donahue can change the subject all he wants, but knowing that your employees/charges are breaking laws and covering up for them makes you a conspirator.

Ask Richard Nixon.

Oh, and it wouldn't have made a whit of difference if the victims were female, child abuse is child abuse.

Posted by Johnny Wendell on Apr. 02, 2010 @ 6:32 am

I was abused by a catholic priest when I was a kid. I understand the nature of the Vatican and how it deals with these issues. (BTW Bill Donohue is a one-man-band with a laptop. He only represents himself and his own career) The priest abuse of children issue is the tip of the iceberg. The real news is that the pope, cardinals and bishops of the catholic church are completely corrupt and dishonest. They have attempted to cover-up the truth of the abuse of children by priests, have lied to civil authorities and to their own people, have tried to bribe abuse victims, and eventually have been showed to be accessories to the crime of child abuse. They should be tried, convicted and put in prison.

Posted by Daishin David Sunseri on Apr. 03, 2010 @ 7:59 pm

The Church has taken many steps to deal with this crisis over the past decade and recent studies have shown that sexual misconduct by catholic clergy has been reduced to such a degree that the catholic clergy ( today) is probably the last place you'd find someone who wants to touch a young teenage boy or child. The crimes that were committed ( mostly before i was born as Im in my 20s) are horrific to hear about and hard to imagine to me. I have priests in my family, uncles, who are kind, dedicated men, personable and loved by their congregations and by the people they've served in the missions and schools for the poor. I know the church is a force for good and I hope it can get over this.

As for the facts.. im tired of hearing liberals scream " outrage" over comments that are not politically correct without any context or opportunity for an explanation. Ofcourse there is a problem with homosexual men in the church who abuse teenage boys. Most of the victims are not 5 year olds, many of them are high school students, including the CNN guy Roberts who was in high school when abused. Thats just a fact. He NEVER said homsexuals are abusers or that the kids wanted to be abused. Just this weekend the church got into another media spat because a priest read a letter from a jewish friend of his who compared the anti catholic vitriol in the media to anti-semitism. Media translation? VATICAN PREACHER COMPARES MEDIA REPORTING ON CHURCH ABUSE TO HOLOCAUST.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 03, 2010 @ 9:41 pm

Whether the problem is limited to gay clergy or not is completely irrelevant - it's a red herring intended to get up the dander of homophobes in response to "reactionary liberals."

Gay or not, the problem is that there are a number of clergy (and women religious, in some cases), who are using their positions of power, afforded by, and under cover of the Church, to take abuse children. This problem is compounded by the Church's attempts to minimize and hide these criminal, and cruel, behaviors.

Please don't get distracted by these claims of behavior by "gay" clergy. It doesn't matter what their orientation is (nevermind the fact that if the Church believed they were gay, it would be compelled to defrock them, but hasn't), it only matters that the Church appears to be sheltering and protecting abusers, a reprehensible stance regardless of this attempted distraction.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 08, 2010 @ 12:27 pm

Whether the problem is limited to gay clergy or not is completely irrelevant - it's a red herring intended to get up the dander of homophobes in response to "reactionary liberals."

Gay or not, the problem is that there are a number of clergy (and women religious, in some cases), who are using their positions of power, afforded by, and under cover of the Church, to take abuse children. This problem is compounded by the Church's attempts to minimize and hide these criminal, and cruel, behaviors.

Please don't get distracted by these claims of behavior by "gay" clergy. It doesn't matter what their orientation is (nevermind the fact that if the Church believed they were gay, it would be compelled to defrock them, but hasn't), it only matters that the Church appears to be sheltering and protecting abusers, a reprehensible stance regardless of this attempted distraction.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 08, 2010 @ 1:08 pm