Do you even know what it means?

Why does the Guardian spend so much time bitching about the Chronicle creating news and whipping people into frenzy? You people try just as hard, just no one reads this paper, and the people who agree with you are already always in a frenzy.

Knocking on fascism's door. Interesting title. Interesting because about a week ago, I was on here talking about Hitler and fascism and the way it's creeping into this nation (particularly with the fascist AZ nonsense) and I got a warning from the Bay Guardian, specifically from Marke. He warned me to "knock off the Hitler talk..."

Today I come on here and I see Sarah's article about knocking on fascism's door. I thank her for her article (gracias), and I agree with what she wrote and the title. As I had said in previous comments, we are living in a corporate fascist nation.

But the hypocrisy of the Bay Guardian is blatant. Watch out Sarah...you'll get a warning from Marke.

But now I see that other sites and radio programmes are talking about this subject quite heavily. So, I guess The Guardian decided it's time to catch up to what others have been following for months now. But yet, when I bring it up, I receive a warning.

"Once in power Adolf Hitler turned Germany into a fascist state. Fascist was originally used to describe the government of Benito Mussolini in Italy...."

Okay Marke, give me another warning. The truth really hurts, doesn't it?

And here's additional information for you:

From Wikipedia:

EXCERPT:

Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2][3][4] Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives, values, and systems such as the political system and the economy.[5][6] Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of the conventional left-right political spectrum,[7][8][9][10][11][12] while some scholars say that fascism has been influenced by both the left and the right.[13][14]

Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[15] They claim that culture is created by collective national society and its state, that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus rejects individualism.[15] In viewing the nation as an integrated collective community, they claim that pluralism is a dysfunctional aspect of society, and justify a totalitarian state as a means to represent the nation in its entirety.[16][17] They advocate the creation of a single-party state.[18] Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement.[19] They identify violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.[20]

Fascists reject and resist autonomy of cultural or ethnic groups who are not considered part of the fascists' nation and who refuse to assimilate or are unable to be assimilated.[21] They consider attempts to create such autonomy as an affront and threat to the nation...

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And to the insipid, stupid trolls who don't know what this article is about or understand it: Engage your brain if you have one and Google fascism. Duh.

Debating Fascism is like debating the wind. Fascism can in general can be anything depending on the circumstances. For example the left wing Peronist version, which resembles the San Francisco progressive vision of unions and the state merging, as much as oil companies and the federal government. That "you're a fascist" is such a tired game, especially from people who don't like being called communist.

Try a couple of these though...

Illegal aliens are not a race. Thus a failed analogy to Fascist racism. Also legal immigration is not hung up on these race issues.

Progressives complain "who will do the work" thus shilling for big business that wants to keep wages low" Thus a good analogy to Fascism.

The remaking of words and terminology and getting them into the general lexicon around this issue should be the envy of any neo-nazi group who studies Goebels.

Still, this is a game for children, like Sam and Sarah. Whine when you are called a communist then scream fascism at the top of your lungs, then go make common cause with people wearing Che shirts.

"Nobody reads this paper?" You do, Glen. (So, by fairly good estimates,do about half a million others, but never mind.) You do. And you seem more in a frenzy than anyone I know.

Additional Information:

Hispanics unhappy with Dem shift
Jeanne Cummings – Thu May 6, 5:39 am ET
Yahoo Politico

Excerpt:

"To get an idea of how far Democrats have moved to the right on the issue of immigration reform, consider this: The Obama administration’s enforcement efforts in 2009 led to the deportation of 387,790 illegal immigrants — a 5 percent jump over the Bush administration’s record in 2008. [Sam's comment: More of that "Change we can believe in" stuff. Oh, it's "change" all right....just in the opposite direction of where most of the voters who allowed themselves to be duped by The Chairman of Change thought it was going to be.]

And this: A liberal Democratic senator from New York is a co-sponsor of a measure that includes what civil libertarians fear could become the first national ID card.

And this: A PowerPoint presentation offering guidance for Democrats in the coming Senate debate concludes that the most persuasive argument to voters for supporting reform is actually a classic Republican pitch: because it will force illegal immigrants to “pay their fair share of taxes.”"

(You can Google the title of the article, "Hispanics unhappy with Dem shift" to read the entire article. It's on Yahoo News).