Daly highlights a decade in his district


Over the last decade, Sup. Chris Daly has been both a stalwart leader of the progressive movement in San Francisco and a political lightning rod – both for his aggressive advocacy of controversial policies and his combative personal style. But as he prepares to leave office, Daly is trying to highlight the role his District 6 constituents have played in pushing progressive reforms, starting with an event this Saturday morning at Herbst Theater.

Entitled “10 Years of District 6,” the event will feature significant players and movements from the last decade, including dot.com era land use fights over tenant eviction and the use of live-work lofts and other tactics to circumvent city housing policies, including formation of the Mission Anti-Displacement Coalition; the struggle to save SRO units for the poor; the successful campaign to save rent-controlled units during the Trinity Plaza rebuild; efforts to squeeze funding for community improvements out of developers; campaigns for progressive budget priorities; and a look at what's next by Daly himself.

“Over the last decade in San Francisco's District 6, the more honest analysis is that our many victories-- on the ballot, at City Hall and in the neighborhoods-- have not been about Chris Daly,” he writes. “Rather, our success has grown from the strength of our grassroots community and a true partnership between those in the trenches and those of us they elevated into the halls of power.” The event runs from 10:30 am to noon. It should be an interesting discussion of the district's past and future, led by a termed out supervisor who has yet to announce who he's endorsing to succeed him among the crowded field of candidates running for that seat.


We're all in luck. This Saturday we'll all have a chance to listen to a politician talk about himself for six hours.

Won't that be special? Especially if its a glorious, sunny day outside!

Where did Chris Daly get this idea from? Kim Jong Il?

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 16, 2010 @ 10:36 am
Posted by matlock on Jul. 16, 2010 @ 12:45 pm

I'm not sure how either of you calculated an event from 10:30 am to noon as being six hours, but Arthur has always seemed prone to hyperbole.

Posted by steven on Jul. 16, 2010 @ 2:10 pm

Arthur, get a life. Seriously, you're a broken record.

Posted by Luke Thomas on Jul. 16, 2010 @ 2:22 pm

Says Steven in a post above:

"I'm not sure how either of you calculated an event from 10:30 am to noon as being six hours"

Only one and a half hours of having to listen to a politician hype himself?

Well, that is appealing. Who would want to miss this event?!

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 16, 2010 @ 3:13 pm

Chris Daly will go down in history as a bare knuckled human rights leader. The sole reason why he has so many powerful enemies is because he has fought for the working poor and their interests. Attempts to paint him out to be crazy have always been by people who's opportunistic financial interests were in conflict with Daly's humanitarian agenda. He has fought long and hard to defend poor, working class and middle class San Franciscans. Forcing honest working people into poverty, closing public schools or making elderly people beg for change when we live in one of the wealthiest cities in the world - that's crazy.

Posted by Guest Jose Luis Pavon on Jul. 16, 2010 @ 3:22 pm

"Chris Daly will go down in history as a bare knuckled human rights leader."

Utter rubbish. Chris Daly won't go down in ANY history other than maybe at Zeitgeist and with SF Critical Mass. He's a cipher in the bigger political picture. Shall I name a few prominent politicians from as recently as the '80s who are now totally forgotten?

"The sole reason why he has so many powerful enemies is because he has fought for the working poor and their interests."

That's hardly true. He made an enemy of the few fairly powerful people I know who live in D6, but it had nothing to do with him supposedly "fighting for the working poor" -- it had everything to do with him fighting any attempt to clean up D6.

"Forcing honest working people into poverty, closing public schools or making elderly people beg for change when we live in one of the wealthiest cities in the world - that's crazy."

Those people have never been Daly's core supporters. Those are punks, radicals, and (mostly) yuppies infected with Caucasian guilt. The "honest working people" of D6 that _I_ know are sick of the quality-of-life crimes that D6 has so many of, which Daly allows, since he dismisses them as "lifestyle issues".

Posted by Guest on Oct. 29, 2010 @ 6:57 pm

Chris Daly has been one of the most abusive people to hold public office in SF in the last 35 years. He swaggers around and bullies people like a male-chauvinist leftist from the 1950s.

He knows nothing about the critique of patriarchal behavior that was developed in the last three decades by the women's liberation movement and the gay liberation movement.

In the ten years he has been in office, he has encouraged his followers and surrogates to be as anti-intellectual, surly, abusive, and self-absorbed as himself. No one has done more to degrade the tone of SF politics than he.

Is this the legacy that George Moscone and Harvey Milk died for? If so, then this city is in very serious trouble, indeed.

Fortunately, all of the people most likely to succeed him - Debra Walker, Theresa Sparks, and Jane Kim - are far superior in character.

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 16, 2010 @ 6:51 pm

Arthur, Milk vigorously defended the street kids that you denigrate and attack, and I can think of no other measure that degrades the tone of SF politics more than the sit-lie ordinance and the tactics and rhetoric that you've used to promote it. Daly, who fights the same established interests that Milk did, is far closer to being his heir than you are.

Posted by steven on Jul. 19, 2010 @ 10:29 am

Arthur, you've a serious problem with hyperbole. While I personally find a lot of amusement in your arcane ramblings and rhetoric, you really need to lay off the hyperbole and consider some actual facts.

Chris Daly is a very popular and respected politician who's been elected not once, not twice but three times by the people of the city and county of San Francisco.

Milk and Moscone were murdered by a man who was insanely jealous of the power and popularity they enjoyed. The legacy they died for is very much alive and well in San Francisco by those who support the indigent, poor and helpless. Those who support and respect the gay street kids who run away from abusive homes to find refuge and shelter in this great city. Those who give solace and respect to those recovering from personal grief and struggling with drug and alcohol dependancies who find refuge in programs and training.

The reality of society is grim and dirty and sometimes those who are best suited to deal with it cannot afford to use pretty prose around horrific, tragic and egregious injustices. In the world I'd like to live in I'll accept someone who uses profanity and got something done over a flowery mouthed, placating, eunuch in a harem.

Posted by Frank McGee on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 10:50 am

6000. That's around .85% of "the people of the city and county of San Francisco." That's point-eight-five. In a tiny district composed of SOMA, the Tenderloin and Treasure Island.

What an incredibly overwhelming mandate. Just stunning.

And I don't know anyone who considers Daly either "respected" or "highly popular." The fact is there's a reason Chris Daly has never run for a citywide office - he can't win.

Posted by Lucretia Snapples on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 12:19 pm

It's great that you can do percentages. Too bad that, like our good friend Arthur Evans, you haven't mastered arithmetic yet.

Chris Daly got 9000 votes in the first round in his last race, not 6000. Percentage-wise, that translated to 49% of the vote in an 8-candidate field. Pretty good for a district that suffers from historically low turnout.

But again, talking about percentages may be a bit too complicated for you at the moment. Continuing to claim that "hardly anyone" showed up to the symposium even after I exposed Arthur Evans' faulty math shows that you still haven't mastered arithmetic.

So here's lesson 2 in arithmetic: 200 people showing up to a symposium on a sunny Saturday is not "hardly anyone."

Posted by Greg on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 1:36 pm

Statistics, thats so awesome. And they prove what exactly?

That the district is very small?

Granted its no district 7 or 10 although it encompasses some of the richest and poorest neighborhoods - Union Square, Tenderloin, Civic Center, Cathedral Hill, South of Market, South Beach, Mission Bay, North Mission, Treasure Island, Yerba Buena Island, Alcatraz, and part of Hayes Valley.

The fact is that he gets elected AND re-elected no matter how much you and Arthur Evans stamp your feet and cluck your tongues and that makes him, in point of fact, "popular".

You and Arthur are like eunuchs in a harem. You don't have what it takes and you probably wouldn't know what to do with it if you did.

I'm not defending Chris Daly, I don't think he needs anyone to defend him but if you don't like the facts, run for election yourself.

Posted by Frank McGee on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 5:22 pm

By Mayo Clinic staff

Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.

Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:

* Believing that you're better than others
* Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
* Exaggerating your achievements or talents
* Expecting constant praise and admiration
* Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
* Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
* Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
* Taking advantage of others
* Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
* Being jealous of others
* Believing that others are jealous of you
* Trouble keeping healthy relationships
* Setting unrealistic goals
* Being easily hurt and rejected
* Having a fragile self-esteem
* Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional

Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value others.

When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — the best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance.

But underneath all this behavior often lies a fragile self-esteem. You have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better.

When to see a doctor
When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may not want to think that anything could be wrong — doing so wouldn't fit with your self-image of power and perfection. But by definition, narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of your life, such as relationships, work, school or your financial affairs. You may be generally unhappy and confused by a mix of seemingly contradictory emotions. Others may not enjoy being around you, and you may find your relationships unfulfilling.

If you notice any of these problems in your life, consider reaching out to a trusted health care provider or mental health provider. Getting the right treatment can help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable.

Posted by matlock on Jul. 16, 2010 @ 10:41 pm

Chris Daly lived his public life according to the words that he often threw in other people's faces:

"Fuck you, bitch!"

Likewise, Chris Daly's ally, Aaron Peskin, lived his public life according to the words that he threw in other people's faces:

"Payback is a bitch."

However, I remember words of a different caliber from a man named Harvey Milk:

"You gotta give 'em hope."

Which one has left the noblest legacy?

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 17, 2010 @ 9:19 am

Matlock, come out of the shadows and reveal your identity. What are you afraid of? Anonymity is cowardly. At least Arthur "Fuck you, bitch!" Evans posts under his real name.

Posted by Luke Thomas on Jul. 17, 2010 @ 2:47 pm

Anonymity is cowardly? That is a strange charge coming from a journalist.

If you won't defend the rights of others to speak anonymously while you rely professionally on the right to use anonymous sources, that is hypocrisy.

It is also shocking ignorance.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 7:49 am

I guarantee you that if we were 'in the shadows' away from witnesses and outside of a building full of sheriff's deputies you would think twice about calling me names.

Feel free to call people names online all you want.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 8:04 am

Defamation and slander is not protected free speech. If you're going to attack someone by name in a public forum, at least provide your name so that you are held accountable for your words. Doing otherwise is chickenshit.

Posted by Luke Thomas on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 9:16 am

Those are Daly's traits, he wasn't being attacked, thats how he acts.

When Joe Wilson screams "you lie" he is an asshole, when a liberal screams "kiss my gay ass" or "fuck you" they are "speaking truth to power."

This is all part of the cconfirmation bias of the true believer. You excuse the stupidities of the left while whining about the same antics from the right.

Glen Becks constant ravings are indicative of the rights loudmouth bullying while Daly is just passionate?

Does that last sentence sum up your sloven Daly worship and true believer status?

Posted by matlock on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 9:57 am

I'll just say you simply don't know shit about libel law and you have a foul mouth besides.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 10:07 am

it seemed a lot more like Arthur than Chris.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 17, 2010 @ 3:48 pm

You beat me to it!

Posted by Greg on Jul. 18, 2010 @ 10:07 pm

High goals cannot be achieved by low methods.

All politicians across the political spectrum seek to cloak their bad behavior with rhetoric about their high goals. But politics is as much about methods as goals. Actual methods develop a life of their own and affect people’s lives as much as professed goals.

Chris Daly’s methods are those of a foul-mouthed, bullying patriarchal male. He yells obscenities at people, pounds on tables, storms out of meetings, threatens to destroy the career of anyone who crosses him, and is physically menacing.

His core supporters and surrogates are just as bad. They are anti-intellectual, anti-cultural, and devoid of all social skills. They spread personal slanders against the life and character of anyone who questions The Boss. They are filled with spite and a desire for vengeance, which they justify in the name of the higher goals they profess to pursue.

Daly and his followers have poisoned the well of political discourse in SF to a degree not seen before in living memory. And the kicker is that this degradation is defended in the name of progressive politics.

But there is nothing progressive about abusive personalities and behavior. Give Chris Daly and his supporters enough power, and you end up with Kim Jong Il. He claims to be a big progressive, too.

The good news is term limits. All things in life, including life itself, eventually get termed out. New life arises and has a chance to correct the follies of previous lives.

Let’s hope that Daly’s successor proves to be a person who is balanced, well spoken, good-natured, and positive. Then his district, and the city as a whole, can start to heal from the degradation of the last ten years.

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 18, 2010 @ 8:01 am

As a resident of District 6 I am VERY HAPPY that is finally leaving. Daly has done nothing in office for those of us in the district that are not poor and/or living in an SRO. He has either ignored or belitted the compaints of those of us that have jobs and own homes in the district.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 18, 2010 @ 11:18 am

Luke Thomas of "Fog City Journal" claims that as many as 200 people showed up for Chris Daly's symposium at Herbst Theater. However, Luke Thomas' pic of the auditorium shows about 85.

This would be a respectable turnout for someone who is just starting out in politics.

However, Daly has been in office for 10 years. He is often in the news. He has created a machine that pushes his interests. He has operatives in the alternative media who claim to be journalists but who act as propagandists on his behalf.

Given these assets, the auditorium should have been packed. No one should be surprised that it wasn't. Daly has made himself radioactive through his years of abusive behavior.

True, some still cheer him, especially those involved in the city's nonprofit political complex, which is his major source of power. But most folks know that he has been his own worst enemy, needlessly antagonizing people and poisoning the well of political discourse.

There's a saying in ancient Greek:

"Office will show the man" ("arkhe ton andra deixei")

And so it has.

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 19, 2010 @ 1:15 pm

Luke, as a foreign journalist from a country with less respect for free speech, you should educate yourself about the importance of anonymous speech. You should also educate yourself about fighting words. Exercising their right to anonymous free speech does not make American citizens "cowards", although I believe the situation is different for citizens of Britain?

Journalists, who often rely on unnamed sources and anonymous tips, have a particular responsibility to uphold and honor the tradition of anonymous speech for everyone, lest they lose that right for themselves.

I find it particularly hypocritical when journalists who rely on anonymous sources, or politicians who rely on confidential meetings and closed hearings, take away that right from other people.

From the EFF....


Many people don't want the things they say online to be connected with their offline identities. They may be concerned about political or economic retribution, harassment, or even threats to their lives. Whistleblowers report news that companies and governments would prefer to suppress; human rights workers struggle against repressive governments; parents try to create a safe way for children to explore; victims of domestic violence attempt to rebuild their lives where abusers cannot follow.

Instead of using their true names to communicate, these people choose to speak using pseudonyms (assumed names) or anonymously (no name at all). For these individuals and the organizations that support them, secure anonymity is critical. It may literally save lives.

Anonymous communications have an important place in our political and social discourse. The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that the right to anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment. A much-cited 1995 Supreme Court ruling in McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission reads:

Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical, minority views . . . Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. . . . It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation . . . at the hand of an intolerant society. "

Posted by Guest on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 7:37 am

So who are you, Guest? You use an argument where free speech protections are applicable but do not apply to you.

Posted by Luke Thomas on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 9:35 am

Because free speech protections TOTALLY APPLY TO ME and that you would think otherwise kinda freaks me out actually.

You are from a country that has different ideas about freedom of speech and once again I urge you to educate yourself before you look even more foolish.

I'm not telling you who I am. Don't have to. Not going to. This isn't your blog so you can't ban me if I say something embarrassing to you.

You are IGNORANT of the law and HYPOCRITICAL about protecting your first amendment rights while taking away the rights of others.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 10:02 am

This thread, and many others elsewhere, show how Chris Daly's surrogates typically operate.

Their aim is to divert attention away from criticisms of The Boss. They pursue this goal by trying to turn other participants in the debate into the topic of the debate.

The tactics they use are baiting other participants about anything they can think of and launching ad hominem slanders against other participants, without any regard for the truth.

You find the same goal and tactics in the Religious Right. They, too, seek to divert attention away from criticism of their leaders by baiting critics and using ad hominem slanders. Although the Daly Machine and the Religious Right have different ideologies, they use the same unprincipled methods to achieve their goals.

Let's stand up against bullying in the public forum wherever it occurs, and from whatever source.

Holding politicians accountable to the people, and resisting the obfuscatory diversions of their surrogates, strengthens democracy.

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 10:50 am

Seriously Arthur, lay off the flowery unnecessary rhetoric. When you're called out on things you know little or nothing about you really get your panties in a verbal twist and de.

Lets talk about actual deeds and facts and what specific laws and ordinances Chris has and hasn't put into place.

Posted by Frank McGee on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 11:21 am

Can you count, Arthur?

You're either blind, or you're innumerate, or you're a liar.

The problem with lying in this case, is that the photo is evident for all to see and count. Also keep in mind that it does not show the whole room.

You're entitled to your opinions, but not your own facts.

Posted by Greg on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 11:26 am

Is Fairfield holding a "welcome home" party for Daly after he finally graces San Francisco with his absence? Or are we still gonna have Chris to kick around in the years ahead?

Daly is symptomatic of everything wrong with politicians (much like Jane Kim). Completely enamored of himself and unbelieving that San Francisco is going to manage in his absence, he holds this Mao-like event for his sycophants (of which Steven Jones counts happily count himself) which the SFBG screechingly publicizes. And yet hardly anyone shows up.

If a politician engages in rhetorical masturbation and no one shows up does it still count as a rally?

Posted by Lucretia Snapples on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 12:14 pm

Lucretia, can you be more specific? What voting issues did Chris vote or not vote on that makes him "symptomatic of everything wrong with politicians"?

Of course he has an ego, every single member of the board of supervisors, our state assembly, the US congress and senate does and has too or else they simply wouldn't survive. You can't really be that naive to think otherwise.

Whether or not its the type and style of ego you want is a subjective opinion and worthless in the face of actual deeds and facts.

Holding rallies and speaking in public is what politicians do, it is how they get elected - in Mr. Daly's case - three times. If two dozen people meet in a coffee house in the 18th century and plan to overthrow a monarch does that count as a political rally?

Finally comparing him to Chairman Mao is hyperbole coated with ignorance. Mao was responsible for the deaths of over 60 million people. You'll be descending into Godwin's law territory shortly and saying that Chris Daly is "worse than Hitler".

I've no love for any of the members of the Board of Supervisors, but give me someone who speaks out and tries to get things done and sometimes succeeds over a comatose "yes man" or lying crook any day.

Posted by Lucrezia Borgia on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 2:03 pm

Thanks to those on this thread and elsewhere who questioned the number of people at Chris Daly's event that I originally counted (85) in a pic at Fog City Journal.

I was able to download the pic to my computer, blow it up, and do a recount, with much better detail. I counted 132.

The pic shows nearly the entire auditorium. Allowing for some folks who were left out of the pic, I would say that the final count was in the neighborhood of 150.

This is a poor showing. The event was widely publicized for weeks, and Daly has been in office for ten years.

If Tom Ammiano had held a similar farewell event on his legacy, the auditorium would have been filled to overflowing.

The poor showing is due to Daly's long history of abusive behavior. He commonly acts like an 11-year-old boy experiencing his first testosterone rushes.

His supporters and surrogates defend this behavior on the ground that Daly pushes for goals that they agree with in politics. However, a better world cannot be built by using tactics that lead to a worse world.

Daly's defenders should stop denying the obvious. His bad behavior has poisoned the well of political dialogue in SF.

He needs to grow up, and the city needs to recover from the damage he has down to its spirit.

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 3:33 pm

Cry me a river Arthur. If you're seriously offended every time a politician drops the "F-bomb or "C-bomb" in politics you're either incredibly naive or a neophyte when it comes to political discourse.

Swanning around city hall spouting the "I Ching" isn't going to prevent unscrupulous SRO's "landlords" from charging indigent families to receive private mail.

If nothing else Daly wears it on his sleeve unlike Brown, Gavin and "Uncle" Getty and the rest of them who curse the poor behind closed doors and probably wish they had the balls Daly does.

For what its worth, the "well of political dialogue" in San Francisco was poisoned a long time ago... around the same day Willie Brown became Mayor.

Posted by Frank McGee on Jul. 20, 2010 @ 5:32 pm

On the one hand, we have Chris Daly, acting like Godzilla on steroids, while claiming to be the embodiment of progressive values in SF.

On the other hand, we have the corporate plutocrats, manipulating agencies and buying up politicians, claiming to be the embodiment of moderation in SF.

Each side points the finger at the other side in order to excuse its own narrow and debased behavior. In fact, however, both Daly and the corporate plutocrats are symptoms of a larger problem: the disappearance of a politics of balance, intelligence, and good will.

We the People will have to make up for these deficiencies by both Daly and the plutocrats. That means reminding all these schemers of the importance of the common good, and insisting on openness, rationality, and fairness in the formulation of public policy.

Or, as the late Cosmic Lady used to ask:

Are we civilized yet?

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 21, 2010 @ 12:42 pm


Law against libel tourism passes US Senate committee

"American legislators have moved closer to shielding US authors, journalists and publishers from libel tourism in foreign courts.

A bill already known as the Speech Act – or the Securing the Protection of our Enduring and Established Constitutional Heritage Act, to give it its full name – has been passed by the Senate judiciary committee. It is intended to hamper efforts to sue Americans for libel in overseas jurisdictions where rules governing freedom of speech are less strong.

Many places, including Britain, currently have stricter libel laws than the US, leading to libel tourism, where plaintiffs search for a jurisdiction most likely to be sympathetic to their case. Some human rights campaigners and legal scholars saying the practice is used by the rich and powerful to stifle dissent and criticism. The growth of publishing on the internet has sparked fears that libel tourism will grow rapidly in coming years."

Posted by Guest on Jul. 21, 2010 @ 3:00 pm

When you or others call out or condemn or censor anonymous posters you reveal a profound ignorance about freedom of speech and are an embarrassment to the entire progressive movement that you profess to support.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 21, 2010 @ 3:03 pm


You shouldn't be surprised at Luke Thomas' eagerness to censor posters who wish to remain anonymous. He has the same attitude toward posters who are up-front.

I used to post under a handle at his website, Fog City Journal, using a whimsical handle that made it obvious to all who I am. On a certain thread, I made a post criticizing our local progressive sect for its extensive drug use. I didn't mention any names.

Luke Thomas took the comment personally. In a post he to made to the thread, he threatened to ban me from his site if I made any more critical comments about SF progressives.

To top it off, he said I should get stoned. I kid you not. This actually happened.

Luke Thomas is not an independent journalist. He's a spinner for Chris Daly and other members of the Peskin-Daly machine. His goal is to promote the clout and agenda of the Peskin-Daly machine and to disparage and marginalize anyone who challenges the machine.

Luke Thomas has every right in the world to act in this manner.

But is this behavior progressive?

Is it principled?

Is it intelligent?

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 21, 2010 @ 5:37 pm

Arthur, you're lying and have lost all credibility. I never took your comments "personally." Your repetitive non-contributory, defamatory drivel was, and continues to be, beyond levels of acceptability.

"How did the Greens in SF get to be so dumb? Is it all the drugs, or what?" is what you wrote in your comment, a baseless, defamatory, opportunistic smear.

I am not a Green.

My response: "Arthur, you’re getting close to being banned from FCJ. Your continual baseless, opportunistic attacks reflect an inner bitterness. You should try yoga, meditation, maybe even smoke a joint now and then to help ease your manifest enmity."


Posted by Luke Thomas on Jul. 22, 2010 @ 10:46 am

the Peskin-Daly machine.

The alternative is bankruptcy from playing the real estate casino and being the sucker bag holder for Newscum and his foreign bank landlord mafia. I'm just not into it.

If you believed in the Newsom vision of buy buy buy residential housing you are underwater and under pressure from some faceless offshore oligarch to lift you of your life savings. HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

I'm talking to myself now.....

Posted by Guest on Jul. 22, 2010 @ 9:09 am

Thank you for your post above, Luke.

You say:

"Arthur, you're lying and have lost all credibility."

Fog City Journal is not independent journalism, and you are not an independent journalist.

Anybody who reads FCJ can see at once that its aim is to discredit any criticism of our local progressive sect, and to bolster the careers of certain politicians favored by the sect, especially the career of Chris Daly.

Which is par for the course in SF. There are other media that seek to discredit any criticism of the moderate sect and to bolster the careers of certain politicians favored by that sect, especially the career of Gavin Newsom.

However, good journalism is something that transcends all forms of sect-think. Good journalism reflects an attitude of equal-opportunity skepticism. It recognizes that there is a lot of dross, and a little bit of gem, with every politician. It exposes the dross and values the gem.

Unfortunately, good journalism is no longer to be found in SF. Neither the Chron nor the Bay Guardian nor Fog City Journal comes anywhere near the category of good journalism.

Luckily, we have the Internet. Inquiring people who think for themselves can use the Internet to circumvent the mediocrity and tunnel vision of all the established media and the various cliques they serve.

At its best, the spirit of the Internet is the same as that of the Enlightenment:

"Dare to know" ("Sapere aude" - Horace).

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 22, 2010 @ 1:21 pm

"At its best, the spirit of the Internet is the same as that of the Enlightenment:"

Arthur 1995 called, it wants its hype back.

You literally had me laughing out loud.

Posted by Frank McGee on Jul. 22, 2010 @ 1:34 pm

It's true, as Frank McGee notes above, that the Internet can function as a lowest common denominator. However, people who think for themselves and want info, can use the Internet to find out the facts on their own and draw their own conclusions.

This opportunity to inquiring minds poses a challenge to all guardians of orthodoxy, whether it's the Chron acting on behalf of the corporate plutocrats, or Fog City Journal and the Guardian acting on behalf of the Peskin-Daly machine.

As long as the Internet remains uncensored and free, seekers of info will be able to outmaneuver all guardians of orthodoxy, whether in politics or religion, whether on the right, middle, or left.

The guardians of orthodoxy would fare better if they stopped trying to censor views they disagreed with and welcomed a true diversity of thinking among their users.

But then they would no longer be guardians of orthodoxy. They would be inquirers with open minds.

And if there is one thing that all guardians of orthodoxy hate, regardless of their particular orthodoxy, it's independent thinking.

So the Chron will continue to be the Chron, Fog City Journal will continue to be Fog City Journal, and the Guardian will continue to be the Guardian.

How much more they all could be - if only they valued open minds!

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 22, 2010 @ 5:44 pm

Arthur can I suggest you read up on the Political Economy of the Media, it may help you focus your comments a little bit beyond the blatantly obvious.

Some examples:
The SFBG relies heavily on cigarette and escort services advertisement revenue. It'll be unlikely for you to see articles condemning either of those industries or individual advertisers directly.

The New York times relies heavily on diamond ad revenue, you'll rarely see it criticize De Beers.

In 1996 PBS's News hour relied (still does) on support from ADM and it ran very few stories about the lysine price fixing scandal.

Sadly the internet is also subject to exactly the same political economy through the practices and policies of telecoms and governments.

Words to live by - “on the internet no-one knows you’re a dog” Peter Steiner’s cartoon from The New Yorker (pg 61 of July 5, 1993)

Posted by Frank McGee on Jul. 23, 2010 @ 1:13 pm

You gotta love Fog City Journal’s recent coverage of the D6 Symposium.

It featured photos, taken by Luke Thomas, of Supervisor Chris Daly on stage behind whom we see slides projected on the screen of Supervisor Chris Daly that are also photos taken by Luke Thomas.

The story is being cover by Luke Thomas who also controls the Comments section of the very article he wrote.

Luke Thomas also writes stories about progresive District 6 Supervisor candidates for whom he just now admits he supplied campaign photos.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 23, 2010 @ 9:09 am

Luke Thomas is a propagandist for the Peskin-Daly machine.

As the moderator of the Fog City Journal website, Luke Thomas launches personal attacks against people who make posts critical of the machine. He threatens to ban people who are too critical of groups and politicians he supports.

On this website, he baits people who criticize the machine because they use handles to protect themselves. When challenged about his behavior, he accuses people of being liars.

Once when I made a short post to his website, he deleted half of it, changing the meaning of the post, without giving readers any indication that he had done so. I have to wonder how many others he has done that to.

At the same time, he gives free rein at his site to marc saloman. He has created a software that hacks threads that are critical of the machine, creating long posts of total gibberish to wear down readers.

There’s nothing unusual about this sort of cheesy behavior in politics. In fact, it’s just another example of politics as usual. But is it progressive?

The same question can be asked about the politicians that Luke Thomas has supported.

For example, Chris Daly with his Godzilla-like testosterone rages. Tom Ammiano with his screaming hissy fits. Carole Migden and Ross Mirkarimi with their humiliating behavior toward their own staff members. Aaron Peskin with his boozing and making harassing phone calls to people at home at night.

Once again, there’s nothing unusual about these kinds of behavior in politics. In fact, they’re examples of politics as usual. But are they progressive?

Take a step back a look at the behavior that now prevails among many in this town who claim to be progressive.

Is this what George Moscone and Harvey Milk died for?

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 23, 2010 @ 1:33 pm

"creating long posts of total gibberish to wear down readers."
-Arthur Evans, accidentally but accurately, sums up his own contribution to society.
Not that anyone will remember after a few weeks.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 24, 2010 @ 1:22 am

In 2000, there was a voter reaction against the arrogance of then-mayor Willie Brown. The election of that year brought in a new breed to the board of supes.

In the past ten years, those who took over the board have developed a swagger of their own, causing a disgust among voters similar to what existed in 2000.

The biggest swagger of them all is Chris Daly. His surrogates are in as much denial about his swaggering as were the surrogates of Willie Brown in 2000.

Come this November, watch the pendulum swing, folks

Posted by Arthur Evans on Jul. 24, 2010 @ 9:46 am