Occupy Wall Street comes to SF

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Activists protest on Wall Street on Sept. 24, demonstrations that have spread to San Francisco and other cities.
Marnie Joyce

View our full coverage of the OccupySF movement here.

As the Occupy Wall Street demonstration enters its 12th day in New York City – and as progressive activists protest in cities across the country – Bay Area residents are preparing for a mass mobilization on the streets of San Francisco tomorrow afternoon (Thurs/29), targeting financial institutions and other entities that they blame for the economic plight of the average American.

While the mainstream media has alternatively tried to ignore the uprising or scoffed at its wide range of complaints, the activists involved say it boils down to the powerful doing well at the expense of the powerless, and actively widening that divide. And the manifestations are many: layoffs and employee benefit cuts by profitable corporations, a worsening foreclosure crisis and lack of affordable housing, small businesses that can't get access to capital, political corruption that scuttled real fiscal reforms, deep cuts to government services made worse by the right-wing's refusal to tax rich corporations and individuals, shady corporate tax avoidance schemes, an education system under assault, refusal to seriously address global warming and economic injustice, and a litany of problems created by the same small group of power brokers.

“It's along the lines of saying: Look, these people are screwing us in every way they can,” Alysabeth Alexander, the political director of Servie Employees International Union Local 1021, told us.

That union and many others are part of the broad coalition – a group that includes university students, social service providers, religious leaders, economic justice advocates, the online collective Anonymous, and others – that is organizing tomorrow's protests in San Francisco, which will peak between 3-6 pm at selected targets around the Financial District, such as Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase, and Goldman Sachs.

"Big banks crashed our economy and destroyed our communities. Budget cuts threaten our schools, libraries, and social services. We bailed out the banks. Now they need to pay,” organizers wrote in an event invite on Facebook.

One of those organizers is Sarah Page, who has been helping coordinate various Occupy San Francisco events, which begin tomorrow with a 7:30 am “wake-up call” at the “night camp” at Steuart Street near Embarcadero and continue through a 4 pm demonstration outside the Federal Reserve Building and into the evening.

Her group's week of protest began last Saturday with a General Assembly in Union Square and will end with another one there this Saturday at noon. "There's more people camping and they've gotten very organized. Every day it seems like there's more people showing up,” she told us. “There aren't really leaders, the people at the camp are really organizing themselves."

The week of protests, dubbed the Refund California Week of Action, has also been organized and chronicled by the website Make Banks Pay California, which says that this week's protests throughout the Bay Area will be followed up next week by protests in Los Angeles.

Will the protests that began on Wall Street and trickled into cities around the country catch fire in the same way those in the Arab Spring have? I suppose that depends on who shows up and what happens tomorrow. But we at the Guardian will be out on the streets, chronicling the action with words and images here and tweets here or here, so follow along or join the moment.

Yael Chanoff contributed to this report.

 

Comments

The problem with the "bootstraps" mentality is that you can work hard for yourself, but in a failed system, it's not really any help when it all comes crashing down. Sure, you might be fine, you might not, but I think this is the point where people are often split by the Ayn Rand philosophy of "be your own hero" and the adverse, which is altruistic or sometimes "socialist." You can go ahead and work your butt off for yourself, ask no questions and put your faith in the system like a good boy/girl should, but meanwhile they could be plucking you up the butt and you become a cog in a large, intricate, corrupt system.

Maybe this is what you want, so long as you don't know about it. It's none of your concern how things work as long as you get your money at the end of the day, right? Sure, you can voice what you want to your political representatives, but that's not to say they won't and don't overlook your well thought-out e-mail or letter about how education is getting the shaft while the House of Representatives passes a bill that allows factories to let us to breathe more mercury because we're too poor to keep the clean air act intact. (But hey, what does a little more mercury in the air matter when we have more jobs so that we can pay for the medical bills later?)

Revolution is not always a bad thing, in fact it can often be very healthy for a society, but people poo-poo it and label it terrorism whenever it's convenient. The majority of these people aren't out there looting and rioting - they're asking for real change, in numbers, and non-violently. If that's not a display of democracy, well, I guess I have a wrong view of democracy. Even if what they are protesting is a wide range of vague, broad arguments, I think the bottom line is that a lot of people sense that the system as it exists now is very unsustainable, and things need to evolve quickly or we'll be 3rd world before you know it, and the only people who will be alright will be the ones that you bailed out with that money you worked so hard for.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 28, 2011 @ 9:22 pm

We have been occupying San Francisco since 9/17. www.occupysf.com I emailed your Editor about this last week but got no response. Guess the Bay Guardian is mainstream media.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 28, 2011 @ 9:54 pm

NOT FOR BIGOTS. It is Easy to get back at Wall Street. Do what the mainstream media tells you not to do...Everything is the opposite now days..Good made to look bad, bad made to look Good. Open the Bible, Quran or words of God. Read the rulings about not dealing with Interest and supporting these money lenders. Rulings that are over 1000 years old. After you apply these basic principals and teachings in your life then you will be truely free. The medicine may look bad and hard to swollow, but its good for you. You can continue building up this hatred and feeling powerless or you can use your head. What they tell you to stay away from you Go running towards. A good start would be to switch off your TV permanently and make a pledge to be debt free before a certain time. The simply intention of doing this will bring some peace to your heart, guaranteed. If you want to enjoy something you have to FAST for it and pay for it with money you have at hand. I have done this 2 years back and believe me ripping apart my credit cards and telling my bank to close my bond gave me freedom from these thieves. The change starts with the individual. You can bring down the system by not supporting it. Ever wonder why your neighbours 1000 bucks go further than yours? Figure than one out and you will be free from the system.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 28, 2011 @ 10:12 pm

I 100% agree with the previous poster. I bit the bullet and paid off $25,000 in outstanding credit card debt 2 years ago. Now that I am free from those usurers, I will never ever borrow again. Living within my means has brought so much freedom and peace of mind. The financial abuses of the U.S. banking system have gone on long enough!

Posted by Guest on Sep. 28, 2011 @ 10:42 pm

Corporations are like little nations that are inexplicably encouraged to wage war on everyone and destroy everything. Why?

SUPPORT OCCUPY WALL STREET

Posted by Guest on Sep. 28, 2011 @ 10:43 pm

May God bless and keep you all safe while you stand up for us all. May His Angels spead their wings over you to protect you all from harm. Let Love rule your hearts and let your minds be at peace. Remember, do not hate those who would abuse you but return any unkindness with Love.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 28, 2011 @ 11:06 pm

You should be aware that this is a national movement that is not being reported by the major media outlets.

Google "Occupy Wall street"

The only people "overstepping the mark" are the police. Their tactics of using OC spray to punish protestors and their targeting of people with cameras and video recording for arrests is no accident and is intended to break the back of this movement before it spreads to more cities.

It is too late for that - it has already spread and they miscalculated, their tactics and what has clearly been a media blackout of the event has convinced many that it is time to bring voice to the outrage of the American public - the 99%.

The fact that the major media is not covering it is irrelevant - within a few weeks people will be able to step outside their homes and see for themselves because it will be in their cities as well.

As for your warning you should be aware: I think it is the police that ought to show restraint; there are a tremendous number of combat veterans in the demographic that is most impacted by the decline in the economy. They are not only in a poor job market they have seen trillions of public wealth transferred to private hands of a tiny fraction of the nation. The rich did not only steal the wealth of their own generation their greed mortgaged the future wealth of the next two generations.

These combat veterans will not drop to their knees and cover their heads in the face of brutality. I know - because I am a combat veteran myself.

The peace and cooperation the protestors are currently showing is a social contract between them and the police. However, the idea that the police have control is an illusion. They only retain control as long as the protestors comply. Once the police violate the social contract and force a response from the protestors the police have only one option - retreat and hope the rage dies down before there is nowhere left to fallback.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 12:25 am

I still don't get what's the message of this movement...

Are these folks targeting rich people in general? Regardless whether they've been paying the majority of taxes or not.

Are these folks against corporations? If so, what are they against exactly?

Are these folks against big government? If so, do they support the endless "social" programs offered by our government? Or are they in favour of making them a lot more efficient in terms of costs AND benefits?

Or are they simply there to say that they aren't happy with the current system. Then what changes do they propose...

I don't see what the real message is. Maybe it is time for you guys to be clearer about what it is you are trying to achieve.

One thing is for sure, I am glad that they have exposed the police brutality, and that will hopefully put these aggressive policemen back in their place.

Posted by Guest r o on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 12:31 am

and not specific. It seems to be based on some general feeling that businesses that happen to be financial have caused problems. But there's no coherent analysis to show that's true. Moreover, instead of targeting specific companies or people, this is taking a shotgun approach, targeting every financial institution.

Clearly by itself this action is trivial and have no effect. But if you really want to target those who have erred, then at least perform some basic research to discover who those people are. 99% of people who work for banks are just ordinary joe's and did nothing wrong.

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 6:59 am

Agreed with the comment above on defaulting on our debt. I also think that the US gov should default on it's debt as well and start fresh with a clean tax code and much saner levels of spending.

Living within our means would do us all some good, whether on a personal level or governmental level.

A clean and simplified tax code would make it much easier for people and companies to operate in the US. It would also remove special treatment from the mega corporations taking full advantage on this extremely complex tax code.

Either way, the way the country is run, there is no way out of the coming economic collapse that we will be facing over the coming years.

In 2008 we were bailing banks out. )big banks, not the small local ones).

In 2011-20xx we will be bailing governments out. And this is when our levels of money printing are going to skyrocket leading to very high levels of inflation which will only destroy our savings.

As these levels of spending rise, our government revenues will go down and our deficit will skyrocket.

If you want one message for these protests, it should be that the current system is completely dysfunctional and it has destroyed our economy.

If you feel that we are in a bad state today, wait a couple of years when the whole country will be bankrupt. That is when these protests will grow out of proportion.

Don't make this a fight between rich and poor. Instead fight against a completely dysfunctional system. Tax the rich 100% and we will still not be able to pay all our bills.

Remove all social programs from government and we will be harming a lot of people who are in serious need.

There should be a balanced middle ground that will help the country move forward.

Posted by Guest r o on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 12:59 am

Why would you walk to San Francisco people open your Drug filled eyes and see that a match of more then words needs to be pushed to the lawns of Are past fathers..We need more then just words...We need more then praying We need more then Just a news channel that in the end is Paid to lie for the rich..We need more with just songs of hope..We need more then crys...Open your eyes Ask not what you can do for your country Tell your Country its time to change ..Tell them enough is enough what we Need is A day of rest and we should show them we dont need there money there Laws..We need change and Nothing happens in this SO called free land ontill it happens..Evil..Art. Fraley.W.Patrick you want a voices People give me that i will give you the world..

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 5:54 am

The message isn't what is important at this point. What is happening is that the global capitalist system is royally screwing almost everyone and destroying the planet. And people are starting to realize that it is going to directly demolish their personal economic future if they don't do something to stop it.

So people have started to gather, to learn direct democratic process, and then use that process to begin changing the system from the ground up.

This is in the beginning phases right now. Just focused on learning to organize the basic structure of the movement before it takes focused action (hopefully, for the most part, localized action).

It is about creating for the first time, localize direct democracy to counter state and capitalist hierarchy.

Messages, if any, will come later.

The main theme however, is that the wealthy and corporations are completely out of control, are ridiculously hoarding almost -everything- to a -very- small number of individuals, and that this needs to stop, now.

Posted by Eric Brooks on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 7:52 am

I'm pleased to find myself in almost total agreement with her statement above, I had hoped she couldn't be as 'bad' as some of her earlier posts. For example, "Driving out The Poors so the rich folk can move in..." But I appreciate her post above.
As for T-bag, more lies and deceit. This is probably his idea of 'moderation'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZCysXJqNYg

Posted by Pat Monk.RN. on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 8:36 am

And I see these protests as valid and worthy of support. It is very, very clear that we are facing serious structural deficiencies in this country and these aren't transitory - they're as a result of the capitalist system we've built in this country. If the system is to be saved it's going to require some major restructuring and that's going to happen one way or another.

With separation - everything is possible.

Posted by Right on Sister Snapples on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 5:01 pm

I am not Anonymous. I am an American.

I am not just a Consumer. I am a Citizen.

I will no longer be labeled Left or Right, Liberal or Conservative, Demopublican or Republocrat.

I will no longer follow Puppets labeled Left or Right, Liberal or Conservative, Demopublican or Republocrat.

I am the People. And I am coming for the Puppetmasters.

I am part of the 99 Percent. And I demand the following:

1. End the Fed.

2. Reverse Citizens United.

3. Repeal PATRIOT Act.

4. Expose 9/11 Truth.

5. End Profit Wars.

6. Refund Taxpayer Trillions.

7. Imprison the Kleptocrats.

8. Single Term Limits.

Posted by ironboltbruce on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 8:37 am

I am not Anonymous. I am an American.

I am not just a Consumer. I am a Citizen.

I will no longer be labeled Left or Right, Liberal or Conservative, Demopublican or Republocrat.

I will no longer follow Puppets labeled Left or Right, Liberal or Conservative, Demopublican or Republocrat.

I am the People. And I am coming for the Puppetmasters.

I am part of the 99 Percent. And I demand the following:

1. End the Fed.

2. Reverse Citizens United.

3. Repeal PATRIOT Act.

4. Expose 9/11 Truth.

5. End Profit Wars.

6. Refund Taxpayer Trillions.

7. Imprison the Kleptocrats.

8. Single Term Limits.

Posted by ironboltbruce on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 8:38 am

Fair Elections 101. Suggested reading for ignorant trolls.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/elections/2011/09/27/votinghack/index...

Posted by Pat Monk.RN. on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 8:46 am

That's it. The f@cking nonsense that these "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" guys are talking on here has pushed me to the edge. I'm successful and comfortable, I've worked hard all my life and I can still see that we Americans are getting SCREWED by thinking like these kooks. Voting does nothing. The jobs aren't coming back. If you are part of the population that is under 30, you are part of what will soon be known as America's Lost Generation. I don't see what other course of action we have left but to join together- republicrat vs demublican bickering is what keeps us under the corporate control; we are ALL taking it in the shorts if we aren't part of that ultra wealthy 1%. Not everyone can see this yet, but they will soon enough when they loose their seat in the debt-based game of musical chairs we are playing. See you all on the streets this afternoon!

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 9:00 am

They will not be known as a lost generation, because they are now rising up, and fighting back.

Posted by Eric Brooks on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 10:20 am

half a dozen unwashed hippies show up to protest anything.

"This time it's different; the revolution is coming"

Nobody begrudges you the odd outburst of hyperbole as you try and talk up every protest. But hasn't 25 years of seeing the revolution not happen despite your claimed "success" at changing the world not scaled back your ambition as you enter middle-aged mediocrity and poverty?

Or are you going to rail against the man well into your silver social security years? Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans everything?

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 10:51 am

Poor, powerless PaulT.
His complete lack of imagination leads to his spending all his energy leaking his misery into a keyboard, hoping to infect others.
What a pathetic sack.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 11:11 am

To PaulT: Those college-level socialist nobodies, are about to rip the fucking world apart. Leaving you with a bunch of paper to eat, you ain't gonna survive. You better learn how to live in the real world(nature). Nature, where everything is interdependent. Greedy old people. BOOO you!

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 9:03 am

a brand new world of equality and fairness and true democracy is just around the corner.

I'm not old - not sure where you got that from. But if I were, I'd have probably have heard something very similar to the above in every college campus in the sexties.

That didn't work out either, but some tired old hippies don't fade away, it seems.

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 9:49 am

Hi Everyone,

This may be the one and only time I deposit my one cent into what seems to be PaulT's receptacle...And I would expect PaulT to make some empty and provoking remark and that is fine.

I am struck by PaulT's relentlessness in provoking people to respond to him in a negative way. He is attention-seeking. It's surprising to see that many of you bloggers have allowed yourselves to be provoked by him. Seems to be an assumption that PaulT is some kind of conservative, tea-bagger-blah-blah-blah. More likely, he is just some angry dude who eats too much processed food, has health issues, is still hurting over not being seen or heard by his parents as a kid and has not sought therapy for this yet. And, as a result, is projecting his unresolved anger at you all. For some reason, many of you continue to engage with him in this endless debate that you know will not get anywhere. By his second post, it should have been obvious that he's got something like narcissistic personality disorder. Of course, if you enjoy the negative communication loop then that is great; communicate, perseverate, defecate until your heart is content. :)

Posted by Observer on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 9:49 am

the usual kneejerk "You're a troll" that everyone here who loses a debate to me resorts to, strikes me as a far bigger waste of time and effort than what you wrongly allege.

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 10:46 am

as your idea of debating is posting endless assertion and unsupported claims.

But I do believe you are purposely trying to stir the pot on this site by writing that Mayor Lee should look into outsourcing jobs to non-union companies. This is what is called baiting, not an attempt to start a debate in good faith.

Posted by Michael W. on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 6:39 pm

As soon as it is not the standard leftists and organizers who start showing up, we may have something. In my opinion once the regular people, including the middle class as well as the poor, start taking to the streets, its going to have some momentum. As soon as the office workers join us, we will have more impact. It needs to be more than all us usual suspects. Are we at that point in America yet? Will things have to get worse before people finally stand up? This is my opinion,

Posted by James Chionsini on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 9:53 am

Still keeping it light, appropriately simple and providing a little 'humor' for the T-baggers; hope they have the salts on hand least they get the 'vapors'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqQRflUWd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0abS0IdQtA

Posted by Pat Monk.RN. on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 10:01 am

... reportedly of Paul T's smarter younger brother - just carrying on an old family tradition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyO6stTKLlg

Posted by Pat Monk.RN. on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 10:26 am

And take back the night.

Posted by Chromefields on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 10:55 am

I'll be there. Bring a friend.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 11:36 am

What scares me is that anyone can make an argument for or against this and make it sound reasonable. So a lot of people decide what's true or not true by listening to the media. You really have to look within yourself to decide what the truth is, what is wrong with this country, why that is and who you talk to about it. Personally I feel that it would be more proactive to be protesting in front of our government buildings, our city hall's and capitol buildings because after all, nothing has been done without the government's knowledge or because of their poor monitoring practices. The bottom line is that everything that is going on right now is thanks to our government. The banks can't change our government. Also, the truth is that a lot of banks have already paid back the money that was given to them by our government. If you don't like big banks, show them that by taking out your money and going to a credit union. If you are protesting how messed up our economy is and how many people are suffering because of it and how the future of our country are getting a C- education at best, you need to go after our government.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 12:16 pm

What scares me is that anyone can make an argument for or against this and make it sound reasonable. So a lot of people decide what's true or not true by listening to the media. You really have to look within yourself to decide what the truth is, what is wrong with this country, why that is and who you talk to about it. Personally I feel that it would be more proactive to be protesting in front of our government buildings, our city hall's and capitol buildings because after all, nothing has been done without the government's knowledge or because of their poor monitoring practices. The bottom line is that everything that is going on right now is thanks to our government. The banks can't change our government. Also, the truth is that a lot of banks have already paid back the money that was given to them by our government. If you don't like big banks, show them that by taking out your money and going to a credit union. If you are protesting how messed up our economy is and how many people are suffering because of it and how the future of our country are getting a C- education at best, you need to go after our government.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 12:20 pm

Nonsense.

These new protests are showing that organizers are wising up, and are finally taking the protest directly into the face of the slime balls who are actually in charge.

The 'banks' -are- the government.

And they are not only, not getting a pass anymore, they are now at the center of the target.

Posted by Eric Brooks on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 12:43 pm

So you drivel out some mealy mouthed, faux even-handed observation designed to deflect the blame.
People are rightfully and justifiably furious at having their tax dollars, their retirements, and their personal finances looted by these greed pigs, and your equivocating will not save them from being forced to give us our back our money, and our country.

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 12:52 pm

We have to discern here, the corrupt are mostly all powerful and rich yes, but not all rich people are corrupt. Lets look at your every-day gangster or drug dealer; they may be ghetto rich or maybe not at all, but they still don't care who they shit on either to get what they think is owed to them.

The reason that large companies and corporations get breaks is because they provide jobs, and pump money into the economy, thus providing economic stability, somewhere along the line, this has been blurred between government and big business. This is where our attempt to separate should lie. Keeping the lobbyists and private interest groups out of government. Just like Church and state is separate, so too should be big business and government.

To generalize is stereotyping, and is no better than racism or classism, which is exactly what this is falling under in the first place!

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 1:14 pm

Guest, though we are indeed rightfully attacking greedy rich bastards and corporations, they are only the symptom, of the fundamental structurally unsustainable, competitive 'growth' economy which rewards the greedy and encourages -the- greediest and most sociopathic to rise to the top of the hierarchy and dominate everyone, and every -thing- else.

It is this system which must be deconstructed, not just its perpetrators.

However, this does indeed mean an immediate and direct war with the rich, to redistribute their absurd wealth and power, so that we will have the tools with which to make that structural transition.

And corporations get 'breaks' for one reason and one reason only - externalization of costs to maximize profit, which has little to do with hiring anyone.

I would strongly recommend folks watch the free online film 'The Corporation' to get a much better grasp on just what corporations are, and why they are such a problem within our current global neo-capitalist system.

Watch at:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA50FBC214A6CE87

Posted by Eric Brooks on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 1:57 pm

Shouldn't you be there, rather than warbling on your computer at home?

Oh, and take your Monkey with you.

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 5:17 pm

Hey Paul and Gideon,

Did you notice you two are opposed by dozens upon dozens of other people on this site? WAY more people agree that Wall Street F**ked us than think they are just innocent capitalists hopping through a field of daisies.

By the way, I have a good job, make good money and I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps. I also have many, MANY skilled, hard-working friends who can't find a job to save their lives...their dilema has nothing to do with their desire or efforts in looking for a job...it has everything to do with all the jobs being offshored since 1981 (Regan) and NAFTA (Thanks Bill Clinton).

I'm sure you'll respond with some word salad BS from "1984". Enjoy your logicless, soulless, greedy doublespeak lives.

Chris

Posted by Guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

majority of left-wing whack jobs on a web site for left-wing whack jobs?

OMG, I'm shocked.

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 3:49 pm

Then why are you here, shithead?

To lose every debate?

Posted by guest on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 4:30 pm

that passes the time while I'm working. Although, truth be known, it's a little too easy to be a worthwhile challenge, and I'll withdraw once the November elections are over, and the left is once again licking their wounds.

But as a courtesy, the first time I lose a debate here, I'll freely acknowledge it.

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 5:10 pm

And by what means, other than posting assertions and unsupported claims?

And by what criteria did you decide that you have won a debate, outside of a self-serving one?

Evidence please, evidence!

Posted by Michael W. on Sep. 30, 2011 @ 5:59 pm

THE PROBLEM WITH THIS MOVEMENT, THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY ARE NOT SERIOUS. WHY START A PROTEST LATE IN THE AFTERNOON--ESPECIALLY FOR WALLSTREET, WHEN WEST COAST STOCKS EXCHANGE CLOSES THE SAME TIME AS THE EAST COAST. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS ARE JUST A BUNCH OF LAZY KIDS WHO DON'T WANT TO WAKEUP EARLY IN THE MORNING. DURING THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT PEOPLE STARTS EARLY IN THE MORNING. I WISH THIS KIDS WILL GROWUP AND BE MORE RESPONSIBLE. TRY STARTING ALL THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING TO MAXIMIZE THE EFFECTS.

Posted by Change on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 3:44 pm

when NYSE opens (6:30 a.m. PST). Whatever were you thinking?

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

Well the infrastructure for appropriate change is being rebuilt, No longer can via 9/11 protesting government actions be construed as un-American. Protesting is the most American act one can do.
I as a hard working, pulled myself up individual am all for a social revolution leading to a more purified democracy that is not a re-painted feudalism. Those who speak out against this idea are blind to the reality of the lie. A real open society would not hide protests or rallies of any real size ( 5,000+ for ex). Just think on that concept before even looking to the faux aristocracy the merchant and bankers have erected here.

Posted by Vendi on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 5:18 pm

given his normal tendency to exaggerate, probably means there was a few dozen of the usual suspects there, and almost no ordinary people supporting them.

Tempest in a teacup.

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 5:31 pm
Posted by 'anonymous' on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 6:18 pm

I'd trust their reporting as much as I trust something like, er, the SFBG.

Posted by PaulT on Sep. 29, 2011 @ 11:46 pm