Ed Lee's voter fraud problem

10.24.11 - 9:56 am |

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I realize that Mayor Ed Lee has denounced what appears to be clear voter fraud, but he has a problem and it's not going to go away. Lee has allowed himself to be surrounded by the same sort of sleaze artists who circled around the administration of Willie Brown, doing the same sorts of things. And simply calling this crew and its actions "moronic" isn't going to cut it.

Does anybody really believe that there's no connection at all between Lee and the San Francisco Neighbors Alliance or the other independent expenditure committees working for Lee? No way that Rose Pak, Lee's friend who meets with him regularly, is communicating with Enrique Pearce, the consultant for the IE, who worked with Pak on the Run Ed Run committee?

Does anybody really believe that this kind of activity would continue if Lee really wanted it to stop?

Lee's supporters say the guy is new to this level of politics and is a little naive about the rules. Sorry -- that's not an excuse. The last thing we need is a mayor who doesn't understand how important honest, open government is and who can't figure out how to keep the likes of Enrique Pearce in line. Because then we get Willie Brown all over again.

Brown's administration was full of lobbyists and so-called independent operators who had the mayor's ear, got what they wanted -- and had no accountability to anyone. Brown also had some problems with election laws.

This is a bad sign, and the district attorney ought to be investigating, fast -- and releasing the results before Election Day.

Comments

It makes it far more likely, Ed Lee Shill.

Logic.
Why fight it?

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 9:45 am

Interesting

You don't think the fact that Ed Lee proving himself to be a corrupt puppet is an issue?

You don't think massive voter fraud designed to steal this election, directed by the same people that are running Ed Lee's campaign is an issue?

The bottomless corruption of Ed Lee and his puppet masters is definitely an issue to anyone other than a self deluded true believer who is being paid to help Lee win at any cost.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 6:43 pm

To Repeat - Niiice - and - slooow.... It Is ILLEEEEGAL

Our -very- strict voting laws are in place to prevent corruption. There are good reasons why no one aside from a person in your immediate household is allowed to help you vote. Because such 'helpers' could be highly motivated to -steal- or manipulate your vote.

Those organizers broke the law -bigtime- and that is fundamentally extremely dangerous to the integrity of our elections.

Posted by Eric Brooks on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:18 pm

Go ask the DA to prosecute it then

Otherwise Eric - shut the fuck up.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:25 pm

Getting A Little Touchy There Guest?

As I recall, the DA has already been contacted...

I guess all that you've got left in this debate is lashing out with petty meaningless attacks like a spoiled grade school child.

Posted by Eric Brooks on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:49 pm

Good - then leave it up to Gascon

Your relentless nattering on the website of the SFBG isn't doing anything for anyone, other than yourself in allowing you to feel like you're "exposing" something and giving meaning to your otherwise pitiful existence.

This is common knowledge, it's in the public domain, the DA has been "notified" so give us all a break and shut the fuck up.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:22 pm

If you were already aware of this

why did you start asking others to contact the DA?

You were also the loser who insisted on repeating that none of the actions taken by Ed Lee's supporters was illegal, so it made sense to refute you with a little thing called the truth. Perhaps you've heard of it.

Also, why are you demanding that people "shut the fuck up" about rampant corruption of Ed Lee's campaign?

Posted by meatsack on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:44 pm

Tell us about Roswell

Oh great cyber detective!

LOL.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 9:03 pm

I'd rather hear you tell us how Lee is getting out of this one.

We're all ears mini man...

Posted by 'anonymous' on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 9:12 pm

Your fear and desperation are palpable mini man...

time to crawl back under your scum covered rock...

Posted by 'anonymous' on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:48 pm

This is more than just

This is more than just getting out the vote. There's a reason why the leaders of Neighborhood Alliance are pushing to get Lee elected -- because it is to their benefit and they will have access, and their causes will be supported. It's Lee who should be investigated by these groups should be investigated and their activities shut down.

Posted by Ted on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 9:08 pm

Ted, all groups try and support their candidate.

It's the only reason for their existence.

Posted by Anonymous on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 9:00 am

Unlike Ed Lee, not all use voter fraud

to get elected.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 9:46 am

Except that there is zero evidence of any fraud.

Can you name a voter whose intent was mis-represented?

I didn't think so.

Posted by Anonymous on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 4:50 pm

The laws broken by the Ed Lee campaign

have been detailed repeatedly for you elsewhere in the comments.

As you know they mention nothing about intent.
Once again you have confused the imaginary land that you live in with the one where the rest of us dwell.

Ed Le is still in deep shit, loser.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 5:34 pm

http://www.anngarrison.com/

KPFA, the SF Bay View, and the letter to Justice signed by Adachi, Avalos, Yee, Alioto-Pier, Herrera, and Rees, and Leland Yee's additional complaints: http://sfbayview.com/2011/mayoral-campaigns-ask-the-justice-department-t...

Posted by Ann Garrison on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 4:53 pm

I guess Chiu and Dufty are just stand-ins for Ed Lee

I already knew that, but this their lack of signing on to the complaint should clue in other voters.

Thanks for that, Ann. Two weeks to derail the coronation. Spread the news far and wide.

Posted by Greg on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:45 pm

I guess Chiu and Dufty are just stand-ins for Ed Lee

I already knew that, but the fact that they didn't sign the complaint should clue in other voteres.

Thanks for that, Ann. Two weeks to go to derail the coronation.

Spread the news far and wide.

Posted by Greg on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:47 pm

David Chiu did sign the letter..

Looks like someone didn't read the letter very carefully... David Chiu did sign it.

http://www.davidchiuformayor.com/press/david-chiu%E2%80%99s-statement-re...

and he was interviewed about it

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2011/10/24/BAMD1LLD0...

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 9:21 pm

David Chiu did sign the

David Chiu did sign the letter.
No response Greg?

Idiot.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 4:19 pm

Uh oh.

Looks like someone's got an argument boner.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 4:36 pm

Corruption IS an issue

Discussthe issues, anon? Sure. Corruption and the lack of faith in government that follows from it IS an issue.

Posted by tim on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 6:12 pm

Caught with their hands in the cookie jar

The white tents, stencils and ironing boards disappeared yesterday from Chinatown after being caught on tape Friday. Lee's distancing himself and denials of direct associiation with this group with his Win Ed Win picture on it is proof that something is foul with this candidate for Mayor.

7 candidates want an investigation because these are not the only complaints about Lees tactics.

Ultimately it may be in the hands of the voter to remove Ed. From office.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:00 pm

Caught with their hands in the cookie jar

7 candidates want an investigation because these are not the only complaints about Lees tactics.

Ultimately it may be in the hands of the voter to remove Ed. From office.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:00 pm

Enrique Pearce is a scumbag

"Anonymous" = Enrique Pearce = Scumbag

Posted by Chris Daly on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:01 pm

Chris Daly is a scumbag

Who couldn't win a citywide office if the person running against him were a Republican dead corpse.

Go back to your dingy little bar little man.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:17 pm

A Little Touchy There Pearce?

In my view, a supposedly experienced political organizer who was stupid enough to get caught in an idiotic chintzy maneuver like this in broad daylight, is the one who deserves the title 'little man'.

(And not a legislator who accomplished more for his constituents in his two terms as a local supervisor, than most legislators accomplish in a lifetime.)

Posted by Eric Brooks on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 7:42 pm

Oh I love watching the rats squirm!

Would jail be too much to ask??? Please, pretty please. If Ed Lee just gets defeated and then loses his city manager job, that will be enough for me, but jail time would just be the icing on the cake.

Oh how the rats are squirming! Willie's brain is now running overtime to think of who to throw under the bus. 'Cause you know it'll never be him. Willie should have been in jail long ago. But Willie's smart, he'll go to his grave scot free no matter what he does. He's an expert of making his hands look clean. Ed probably gets off the hook too... time to collect your pension for all those years of service to the Willie and Rose. Rose herself... she's backed by big and powerful people. My guess is she gets off.

But poor little Enrique may not be so lucky. No love from progressives who he betrayed, and no love from the machine. Poor little Enrique is expendable. If it turns out that Enrique Pearce gets to be the fall guy for this criminality... well I guess there's some karmic justice in the world.

Posted by Greg on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:00 pm

Interesting. So Enrique Pearce is PaulT, longtime Troll on SFBG?

Interesting.

This would certainly explain all his name changes but consistent lobbying on behalf of Ed Lee, PG&E, BART's attacks on Civil Rights, etc.
A SuperTroll paid to sow doubt and support the scum of San Francisco and California.

Either way, the guy is a class A pig.

Posted by Meatsack on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:06 pm

Inspector Clouseau might as well resign right now!

This genius has figured out that of the billions of Internet users the person posting as "anonymous" is PaulT aka: Enrique Pearce!

Turn over all cold case files immediately!!

Would you mind commenting on the Roswell case and Area 51? I've always been curious about those.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:27 pm

Careful Guest, you sound like you might wet your pants.

Let's leave this to either PaulT or Enrique Pearce to settle.

You seem a little overwhelmed.

Posted by meatsack on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:49 pm

The be in the cyberpresence of such a genius

as yourself - one who can track an anonymous user through trillions of network nodes while screeching out profane revolutionary rhetoric - is bound to get anyone a little excited!

Do tell now - was Roswell an alien crash, Soviet propaganda trick or something else? Surely if you can expose random Internet users you can share this secret with us!

Posted by Guest on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 9:01 pm

The be in the cyberpresence!

You can't even form a coherent thought.
Thanks for this, really.
You are a riot!

Posted by Anonymous on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 7:26 pm

A camera: Don't leave home without it!

hey you - ms. or mr. 'fed up with the damn corrupt SF political system' come close 'cause i've got the best advice for you to follow from now until election day:

always have a camera on your person when you are on the street!!

as the recent vids of independent helpers (yeah, and i'm greta garbo), in chinatown assisting voters shows us, the image is worth a whole lot of bandwith.

democracy demands watchdogs with cameras not just documenting the shite we're gonna see the willie brown/rose pak/et al machine pulling in the next few weeks, but also getting the pix or vid or whatever up to the web as quick as possible.

back in june i followed this advice when i came across enrique pearce staging a phony photo op showing 'support' for ed lee to break his limp promise to not run for a full term:

http://mpetrelis.blogspot.com/2011/06/photo-op-at-rainbow-grocery-for-fa...

that sleazy enrique pearce staged astroturf events all over town and the web, and if i had left my pocket camera at home, come across the photo op and not caught him in the act of harming democracy, there would have been no story if all i had were text about what i saw. no image = no story.

in my enrique episode, it was a saturday night and i thought to wait until monday to post, and i didn't know who this political pimp pearce was and wondered if anyone would give a damn about the pix i snapped. that natural hesitation to not stir up the pot nagged at me.

so what if it was the height of the weekend and i was ignorant about pimp pearce, and no one cared, i would have at least kvetched to the universe.

document it! share it! promote it!

Posted by MPetrelis on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:14 pm

Hey, "Anonymous"?

If this isn't illegal, then why did they stop doing it? A freaking stencil - with only one hole for a rank voting election?! In broad daylight, on a street corner? Ahhhahahahah!

Posted by Crazy8 on Oct. 24, 2011 @ 8:17 pm

I'd guess they stopped because although it

terchnically wasn't illegal, they under-estimated how much others would misinterpret this attempt to assist voters confused by the ballot process, and deemed it prudent to assist them in a less structured manner.

I haven't seen any evidence that these people weren't all going to vote for Lee anyway, so it's won't affect the count either way.

It's a non-issue, except at the SFBG who are desperate to find something to muddy the waters

Posted by Anonymous on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 6:23 am

Laws were broken by Ed Lee workers.

There has been no "misinterpretation".

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 7:19 am

Define "worker".

If they were employed by the campaign, then you may have a point.

If they were merely "supporters" then there is no direct connection back to Lee.

ChinaTown is a close-knit community and, one way or the other, the Chinese leaders will exercise influence. So what?

Posted by Anonymous on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 9:02 am

Whatever you say, Enrique Pearce. Ed Lee is being investigated.

He and his campaign have violated laws against voter fraud, and it's on video.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 9:49 am

Your Definition Of 'Is'

I guess it just depends on what your definition of 'is' is...

Just keep pathetically trying to spin this. Every ridiculous attempt just makes Lee look even worse.

Thank you for being so diligent. ;)

Posted by 'anonymous' on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 9:50 am

Jumping the shark

I'm starting to believe that you're Enrique as well, Anonymous, because you're illogical lawyerly denials of the plain truth have really jumped the shark. Face the music, call reporters back, get into therapy, and think about what your next career will be after you're disbarred. I'm sure Willie and Rose can come up with something for you.

Posted by steven on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 9:52 am

Anonymous - Wake Up and Smell the Law

Even Ed Lee denounces your so-called "non-issue," and whether or not you've seen any evidence is irrelevant. In other words, election officials will not be calling upon you for your strange interpretation of the law. Rather, they will call upon eye witnesses who say the ironed ballots were kept by the people working on Ed Lee's behalf.

I've worked the polls – and this activity is 100% is illegal. If not mailed, chain of possession of ballots is restricted to a member of your HOUSEHOLD – not helpful Ed Lee supporters – to prevent ELECTION FRAUD.

Further, can you produce evidence the ballots belonged to the people who brought them to be ironed? Can you produce evidence they weren't stolen from nursing homes, mail boxes, or even purchased from someone who'd rather have a couple bucks to play the lotto?

Your defense of this illegal activity is even more alarming to me than the fools who broke the law in broad daylight, and is an argument for getting rid of mail-in ballots entirely.

Posted by Crazy8 on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 10:34 am

Damn Right

Oregon should never have gone to all mail-in ballots. Really foolish...

Posted by Eric Brooks on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 10:56 am

Nonsense. Oregon's move to vote-by-mail

radically increased the participation of poor and minority voters in the political process. The only group opposing vote-by-mail recently has been the Republican party.

Your comment is more proof that you're a secret COINTELPRO-type mole attempting to, as Chairman Mao said: "raise the red flag to oppose the red flag." You're a PGE-ass licker Eric and your on-the-record comments here on vote-by-mail show exactly where your sympathies secretly lie.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 4:44 pm

Time to order a new Troll.

I think we broke this one.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 5:20 pm

Then Greg Palast Must Be Cointelpro Too...

Because he wisely observed, (after he uncovered rampant fraud during the elections stolen by George Bush) that large scale vote by mail is a recipe for very easily implemented massive vote fraud.

In fact, when I first moved to San Francisco, my vote was stolen from me the very first year, via corrupt use of a mail in ballot. (When I went to vote, someone had already voted for me by mail.) This was during the Brown administration.

Widespread vote by mail is incredibly foolish because people like Willie Brown can manipulate it far too easily.

As we have just seen very well proven to us in Chinatown...

Posted by Eric Brooks on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 10:25 pm

Keep echoing right-wing claims Eric

Do everything you can to ensure the continuity of right-wing power in this country as no doubt your handler has suggested you do.

There has never been a verifiable claim of "wide scale fraud" in vote-by-mail in Oregon or any other place in the United States. That argument is used by the Republican party, which was actually in favor of vote-by-mail until it was discovered that it actually benefited Democrats, to undermine the right of poor people and minorities to vote not only by mail but at the polls too.

You are transparent. I see through you. You cleverly raise the red flag to oppose the red flag but the gig is up.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 10:44 pm

And You Are Who Exacty? Seems Like You Are Misdirecting From Lee

Nice try attempting to create some bogus sidetrack away from the reality that your boy Lee is in deep trouble.

And as I said to your other similar comment, why don't you show the guts to stop hiding behind an anonymous 'guest' handle if you are going to sling such serious accusations.

Put yourself on the line if you are going to pull that kind of evil shit.

Otherwise you look a lot like exactly the sort of person you are pointing fingers about.

It's a standard provocateur tactic to throw accusations at others that -they- are provocateurs.

Posted by Eric Brooks on Oct. 25, 2011 @ 11:37 pm

Provocateur tactics are well known to moles like you Eric

You're quite well versed in how to act as one while simultaneously bringing destruction down on your "friends" and "colleagues." You're the classic mole - always urging everyone around you to greater and greater heights of provocation resulting in further and further degradation of the progressive movement - a movement you claim to support.

But your recent alliance with extremist right-wing Republicans to restrict voting rights has exposed you clearly.

Eric Brooks - right-wing mole trying to destroy the progressive movement from within. Raising the red flag to oppose the red flag.

Posted by Guest on Oct. 26, 2011 @ 10:01 am

Destruction? Degradation?

You sure are giving me a lot of credit.

I had no idea I was so powerful ;)

Time to cut down on the crack homes...

Or is Willie paying you in real coke these days.

I figure pathetic addiction is the reason you've sold your soul, and have also gotten so pissed off at me that you are making a paranoid ass out of yourself.

Posted by Eric Brooks on Oct. 26, 2011 @ 10:32 pm