Occupy Oakland inmates at Santa Rita attacked- developing story

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Santa Rita jail in Dublin, CA

(THIS STORY HAS BEEN UPDATED)

In the aftermath of the mass arrests of Occupy Oakland protesters-- and whoever else happend to be on the wrong street at the wrong time-- on Jan. 28 in Oakland, there have been loads of reports and rumors about brutality inflicted on those arrested. Most of those arrested were held in Santa Rita jail.

My observations:

I spent 20 hours in jail, and I saw some cruel treatment. I saw people suffering after being denied medication. I saw people with allergies to the food that was provided refused any substitute and unable to eat, sometimes for more than 24 hours. I saw people crammed into holding cells meant for groups a third their size, so that some people had to remain standing, sometimes for more than 24 hours. As many arrestees were wearing clothing coated in tear gas and pepper spray, those chemicals continued to waft through cells and affect all present.

Reports:

I have reports directly from sources of arrested occupiers being beat up in jail with police batons. At least 20 people were ziptied, meaning their hands were cuffed behind their backs-- and more often than not, if they happen to be cuffed too tightly and their hands go numb and even blue, police won't loosen them-- for more than eight hours. I know that some people who were denied access to a restroom ended up sitting in their own vomit and urine for at least four hours in some cases.

UPDATE Another report from Joshua Clover, a professor of English at UC Davis, who was released Monday night, :
"I was held for 53 hours for a misdemeanor charge which every single person here, and there, knows will never be brought, and indeed which will be met with a class action suit for wrongful arrest that the city of Oakland will be compelled to settle. I have a perforated peptic ulcer. Early on in the stay I requested non—prescription care — liquid antacid, which the jail keeps on hand — when I began to have an ulcer attack, which is to say, when I began to bleed internally. I was not given such care until an attorney was able to intervene by phone many hours later. I received one capful, which was mildly effective for about three hours. Further requests were ignored. As many will know, a bleeding ulcer attack is both painful and potentially fatal"

UPDATE When I questioned Alameda County Sheriff's Department Public Information Officer Sergeant JD Nelson about this, he responded that "[Clover] was obviously seen by a medical person, and they said that was enough medicine."

But accoridng to Clover, via an email, "The one time that I received medication, a deputy came to the cell door accompanied by someone who may have been a nurse, holding a capful of antacid. I asked for more but was not given it." And was Clover seen by a medical professional to determine the correct amount of medication? He says, "Definitely not."

Also according to Clover, "Food was often not provided for periods of up to 14 hours. For a long period I shared a cell with 27 other people; it was about ten by ten feet. For a period I was in a cell labeled 'Maximum Occupancy: Two.' There were ten of us, three very sick. We stood. One of the people slumped over on the toilet, that being the alternative to standing."

UPDATE

"Three people I know were denied medication for HIV infections while being held for multiple days, which is a life-threatening choice made by the county"

"two women were denied anti-depressants that they had with them when they went to jail"

UPDATE According to an anonymous source, "My 12x12 cell had 28 people. There was a toilet, a concrete bench, and enough hard floor space for three or four of us to sleep at a time. A girl in the cell across from ours told the guards she needed Lexapro or she would go into withdrawl. They ignored the request. One of my cellmates was HIV-positive. When I last saw him at 2 a.m. on Monday morning he had not yet been given his medications. As I exited the jail I saw a woman who had just been released lying on the floor. She was having a seizure and being tended to by a couple of firemen."

UPDATE From Alyssa Eisenberg, who has multiple sclerosis:
"I take my medication at least twice a day...without it, the pain is, everything kind of goes numb and tightens up. Somtimes I can't even see without it. When  had to sign the booking form about noon i couldn't even see it, my vision was so blurry...I was told they don't give meds to people that are going to be cited and released, only to people that are going to stay and get charged."

Unconfirmed reports:

Daily Kos quotes an anonymous source who reports that "prisoners from the Oakland Commune were being denied medications (some had seizures) while the guards said they didnt care if they died. Some people were brutally beaten. The put tear gas in the vents of my cell twice."
According to Occupy Oakland media spokesperson Omar Yassin, a report that someone was tear gassed in the jail's hallway is likely credible.

Then there's the peolpe who were injured during the protests Jan. 28. Also according to Yassin:

At least a dozen people had welts on their faces or bodies from being beaten by clubs or shot with rubber bullets. One woman was shot in both arms with rubber bullet; one man was shot in the face with rubber bullets while holding a video camera to document the events. Several protesters were shoved to the ground and received wounds on their faces while being arrested. Police raised their rubber-bullet rifles to the faces of protesters throughout the day, threatening attacks-- a rubber bullet to the face can cause brain damage and blindness.

 

A spokesperson for the Alameda County Sheriff's Department refused to comment, although she did say that they've "been bombarded with calls about this all day." Shocker.

UPDATE According to Alameda County Sheriff's Department Public Information Officer Sergeant JD Nelson, no complaints of mistreatment at Santa Rita have been filed.

Nelson said that peanut butter was made avaliable to vegans those allergic to meat, in direct contrast to what I witnessed in jail.

In response to reports that some detainees were held on buses in the Santa Rita parking lot for up to eight hours, during which time they were refused bathroom access and in some cases made to sit in their own urine and vomit, Nelson said that "Generally when they come to the jail the buses are unloaded fairly quickly. Obviously some people are going to go first, some last."

He told me that detainees were denied medication because "We do we allow them to take their medication in jail. People will try to smuggle stuff in."

When asked about reported beating in jail, Nelson replied, "I haven't gotten any reports of any skirmishes between officers and those arrested. We would report it if  there was any use of force,"

According to Nelson, the Alameda County Sheriff's Office has video footage of all of the areas in the jail where arrestees were held, and, unless there was a lawsuit preventing its release, he would make the footage available to me soon. For now he said, "I don't even know if they've been developed." (Is this 1984? Not in the Orwellian sense. In the technology sense.)

More on this soon. Send me information that you have, yael@sfbg.com

Comments

Some laws are unfair, and in NO case is physical violence against prisoners in police custody EVER acceptable.

With your black-and-white justice mentality, I suppose you never drive over the speed limit, or if you do, accept your ticket with a smile and a 'thank you' to the officer.

Posted by Accipiter on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 9:37 am

What crime is it that you speak of??

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 10:27 am

Yeah there are these things called human rights dumb fuck.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 10:35 am

if you can't do the time, don't do the crime? Well that's perfect. Exactly what I was thinking. I suppose we agree that police who break the law should have to do the time then, too? The vast majority of those arrested are completely willing to deal with the consequences, that's pretty much the obvious sacrifice of direct action. Then, too, should police who cross the line and break the law also deal with the consequences.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 11:34 am

I assume you would have said the same to the American Revolutionaries...

Posted by Darklady on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:02 pm

Men went to war to protect the rights these young women and men were enforcing. I'll wager you've never did either.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 8:23 pm

"do the crime"? guess you haven't been paying attention to the facts. see 2 fairly straightforward videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=8pnjDSfwkPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDFy9TlxDLg&feature=youtu.be

what's shameful is when you have paid city servants NOT serving the public. No one (at least not I) is saying the police aren't a very necessary part of society and have a role to play. But I for one will not tolerate a police force abusing their authority. Not for one minute. It's like they love any chance to be violent and have developed a thug-mentality. That is beyond not-okay.

In case you need to be reminded, it is the responsibility of a citizen to be an active player in one's democracy. It's kind of the definition of the word--Democracy. Protests/demonstrations are part of the playbook (in case you're going to lecture me about how the only legitimate way to act in our society is in the voting booth).

If you think the police are acting with honor, maybe you've been brainwashed by all the violence around you. Time to splash some water on your face and respect the rights of your fellow citizens--whether you agree with their values or not.

Posted by Daniele E. on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 8:44 pm

What crime did these people commit? It is written into the first amendment of the constitution that we as citizens have a right to peacefully assemble. None of these people were violent, It was OPD that used force to disperse a lawful assembly. The police department should be investigated for crimes against humanity.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 5:06 pm

I'm so tired of posters like "Walter Cronkripe reports". You're absolutely insane if you feel these people deserve this kind of treatment. You may be lazy and not care about what happens in this country, but many people do. So keep your idiocy to yourself while everyone tries to fix this terribly broken country.

Posted by Jeremiah on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 5:22 pm

Daaammmnnnnnnn............

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 6:55 pm

First of all, how can somebody who was in jail for 20 hours have seen things that happened for more than 24 hours? Standing in holding cells for 24 hours while sitting in their own vomit and urine? Does it seem credible that guards would put tear gas through the vents when it would impact them too? I'm just saying.

violence (ˈvaɪələns) — n
1. the exercise or an instance of physical force, usually effecting or intended to effect injuries, destruction, etc.
Vandalism is destruction and is violence! City Hall belongs to everybody, including the 99%. How did trashing a childrens' art display help the cause? Trashing a model of City Hall? Cutting cables?

If you show up to a riot with a mask and shield with an Anarchist sign on it, you're up to no fucking good, and you're not about the 99% either. Next time forget the other props and bring your seizure meds.

Posted by Think! on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 7:27 pm

How is it now HUGE that the tiny things you mention as some horrible law breaking activity of protestors is a big deal when MAJOR CORRUPTION, THEFT, INSIDER TRADING, LIES, TREASON, POISONING (by food, water and air), and PLANNED DESTRUCTION of America is just overlooked?

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 7:47 pm

Probably because this guy is a cop.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 3:13 pm

Pretty funny the above comment about - "If you show up to a riot with a mask and shield with an Anarchist sign on it, you're up to no fucking good,..." Uh doesn't that pretty much describe the police? (except the sign - but some of the police ironically have "Peace" on their riot shields). Propaganda everywhere it seems!

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 7:51 pm

Propaganda everywhere. Oakland is being used as a media marketing campaign to demean the movement. call it conditioning grounds/marketing. Meant to control people through fear. You could see the Oakland videos and the ninetynine percent was peaceful. 6000 arrests and i have never seen or heard an officer injury. spranged wrist? scratch? nothing, not even a black eye. Oh but we have seen the brutality. the differences are black and white.

Posted by MyGoonSquad on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:00 pm

self styled radicals is that they have license to do whatever they want by rationalizing their actions by the reaction. This after the fact fallacy is interesting.

In the Baader Mienhoff movie and book, the gang is outraged that after shooting at cops, blowing up things and killing various people the establishment kills one of them in a shoot out. This outrages middle class self styled revolutionaries.

This seems to be a commonality with the entitled, run amok and then point fingers at the people who have to deal with it.

This isn't excusing any poor behavior by the cops, it's just a laugh at the mentality of people who think their stupid pronoucements exist in a vacuum.

"Occupy children came prepared to riot, it's not fair that the establishment didn't let them"

Grow the fuck up.

Posted by matlock on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:02 pm

I'm going to create fictitious quotations so that I can angrily disagree with them.
Just like you.
Please don't be offended. It's just a laugh at the mentality of people who think their stupid pronoucements exist in a vacuum.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:21 pm

Are you the person I'm responding to?

The usual white middle class rioters make their intentions known, and it's the cops fault they come prepared?

Tantrum it up bro.

Posted by matlock on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 10:49 pm

Pretty funny the above comment about - "If you show up to a riot with a mask and shield with an Anarchist sign on it, you're up to no fucking good,..." Uh doesn't that pretty much describe the police? (except the sign - but some of the police ironically have "Peace" on their riot shields). Propaganda everywhere it seems!

Posted by Einstein on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 7:59 pm

The arrests took place at the ymca, not at city hall. The damage that supposedly occurred at city hall happened AFTER police had already trapped people in front of the ymca with no warning and no possible way to leave, gassed them, then arrested them.

Posted by Get your facts straight on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 8:03 pm

there was no gas, wtf are you talking about? watched the whole thing. NO GAS. the protesters trapped themselves trying to bumrush the YMCA. NO GAS was fired.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 8:23 pm

What the hell were you watching!? I watched live feeds ALL DAY/NIGHT. There was tear gas used all day long. Batons, rubber bullets, flashbangs, bean bag rounds (lead shot) to name a few other weapons used by OPD.

OPD funneled them to the YMCA & tried to use it to trap the protesters. One of the girls had her YMCA card and got in, and a bunch of people ran through with her to escape the kettling out front.

You watching footage on CNN or something!?

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:14 pm

Actually some sort of gas was fired about 10 minutes before into a "kettled" crowd at 19 th and telegraph. Nobody try to occupy the YMCA, people were just running from the violent OPD.

Stop repeating lies, it's disgusting.

Posted by Dry dock on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:18 pm

"Police said they issued a dispersal order and used smoke and tear gas

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/28/occupy-oakland-protest-grows-to-abo...

There you have it, from your own beloved Fox News.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:40 pm

"Think!": Who the hell do you think you are? It's not up to you to decide who is the 99% and who is not. However, I will say that what the Anarchist group did at City Hall is unacceptable, at least to me.

Posted by Ren on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 8:27 pm

Their art display was TRASHED!
For the good of the children all protests are now banned and will result in indefinite detention at Guantanamo.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:26 pm

The problem is the number of police that show up overwhelm people and cause tensions to rise. You never have ANY problems with large groups protesting until the pigs come in to stir things up with intimidating tactics. Half of them act like bullies who can do anything just because they have that badge on their chest. I am all for people following laws set fourth by their government, but I'm not for living in a communistic police state.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 10:19 pm

hey think! why don't you think deeper?! you clearly have never been arrested. they take everything from you... including any medication. they then refuse to give you the medication. also, the cops can leave the area after putting tear gas into the vents of the cells and holding rooms. they also have masks. many instances of torture have been reported in california and across the country. why is it so hard for you to believe that the police would do this? have you learned nothing from the past? vandalism: the destruction of property. how disturbing that we live in a country and a world where property is more important than people, profit more important than health. you were not there on saturday! this was no riot! it was a peaceful protest that resulted from trying to take over buildings for homeless people to inhabit. this is about the banks and government taking away people's homes and then the police brutalizing people on the streets. get off your privileged high horse and get a clue!

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 12:57 am

I've been arrested. I grew up below the poverty level, and I've never made over $30,000 a year in my life. During the Civil Rights protests in the sixties, those protesting KNEW they were going to be arrested. That was the point, civil disobedience, like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. I never said property is more important than people. Destroying public property and private property owned by small business owners is not harming the 1% oligarchy, helping the 99%, or winning any converts. My whole point (third time now) has been that Occupy Oakland should disavow Anarchists because destruction is not constructive! Peaceful protests BECOME riots when the Anarchists run amok. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Posted by Think! on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 12:39 pm

Civil disobedience means breaking an unjust law to call attention to its injustice. The OPD and the blaque bloque (please don't call them anarchists as you don't know that they are) each brought bad food to the table. The standards for responsibility for the OPD must be higher because their authority is so much greater. There were no unjust laws being broken here, the cops just wanted to stop the demonstration and did.

Property destruction is not a good idea now. But there are times when it might be. Stonewall and the Boston Tea Party are two examples.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 1:34 pm

Somebody wearing a mask, carrying a shield with an anarchist sign painted on it, and randomly destroying property is an anarchist, and I don't give a fuck what they want to call themselves! If they weren't out there stirring up shit, and the march was just peaceful protesters, the police wouldn't have gotten involved. Some cops might be on power trips, and many should lose their badges, but I find it hard to believe that they get off on having bricks and bottles thrown at them. Hospitals and clinics are full of law enforcement officers with dislocations, torn ligaments, and on and on. They don't want to engage any more than the peaceful protesters do. But there are bad actors at these events who DO want violence, and they should be disavowed.

Posted by Think! on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 4:52 pm

Since when did exercising your 1st amendment right become a crime? All these people saying/ thinking that protesters were at fault or deserved this either have never been to an Occupy movement, or have never watched a livestream of what happens at Occupy or illegal raids by law enforcement. I'm from the bay area and have been to Occupy. I also watched 3 livestreams for over 5 hours during this Oakland incident on Saturday/ Saturday night. NO ONE no matter what side you're on, SHOULD STAND FOR INJUSTICE & BRUTALITY BY LAW ENFORCEMENT ON INNOCENT & PEACEFUL PEOPLE!

Posted by SamanthaMarie on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 7:36 pm

Well, I hope they only tortured the people they saw being violent. In every video I've seen of that day, most people were just marching and chanting. I don't think you should be tortured for marching and chanting in a protest just because some of the other protestors were violent.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 7:40 pm

you think some people should definitely be tortured?

Posted by Justin on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 8:11 pm

As someone who just happened to ride their bike down grand ave on my way home from work around 10:30 pm on Saturday I can assure anyone who has doubts about the nature of the protest that at that point of the evenening it certainly did not resemble a peaceful assembly and I was much more intimidated by the protesters than the police.
That being said I have spent a little time in jail myself in Oakland and one thing I both respect and despise is that everyone is treated the same. No special needs, you are there because you have done something that goes against our agreed upon civil code. Maybe you don't think you are in the wrong, but that is for a lawyer and judge to determine later. So priviledged white anarchists that think they can burn property and taunt police will be given the same treatment as anyone else in the cell. And yes Santa Rita is always crowded, and yes they give you white bread and crappy meat and you don't eat it ( no one has ever starved from not eating for a day). And yes if you antagonize the police they will use more restraint with you( we all make choices and usually know the consequences before hand, when you are powerless you don't taunt your jailor, it's just common sense).

This has become a full on rant now... But the last thing I wanted to get off my chest is why can't protesters consider that they hurt small business with their protests? I am all for peaceful assembly, and I hate the distribution of wealth in this country, but when you are negatively affecting the livelihood of middle to lower class business owners by halting their business doesn't that seem counter intuitive? I work in restaurants, many of my friends do as well and I have some friends who have been fortunate enough to open their own bars/ restaurants. When you cease the flow of patronage to these places by blocking streets and traffic it hurts the people you are trying to fight for. I don't know if anyone else sees the irony in that, but I definitely recognize it. And it's not just the business owners but the lost income for all employees, including: dish washers, bartenders, bussers, cooks, everyone is affected. Large business can afford a bad night, two, maybe even two months but the 99%, the people who struggle every day to make enough will be negatively influenced by these sorts of closures and slow nights.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 10:58 am

All cops & 1% supporters need to know - the people of the United States are no longer asleep and these corrupt parties WILL pay for their crimes. There are plenty of GOOD law enforcement officers who take their oath to serve and protect seriously. If they only knew the 1% were robbing their children, grandchildren, parents, grandparents, family and friends - maybe they would rise up with the people and justice would be served.

"To protect and to serve are the words you should heed."

Posted by Anonymous on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 7:57 pm

dear guardian: what happened to reporting facts? pictures? arrest logs, release logs? this article is liable.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 8:25 pm

I think you mean "libel". Good thing you aren't paid to type.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 11:15 pm

Sounds like a normal day in jail to me. Especially on the weekend, it's always fuckin' packed. Feel lucky that you actually got food at all. I've been locked up in a major city several times, and on some of those occasions I didn't get anything to eat for two days. When I did, I ate whatever they brought. I'm not calling you a pussy or telling you to toughen up. I'm telling you that every prisoner is treated this way all the time, every time, when they are being processed. As you can see it is very unjust. Why don't you add doing something to change the way prisoners are treated in American jails and prisons to your occupy movement's list of things to do.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:13 pm

From your comment, I'm thinking jails around the country should treat their inmates like human beings instead of fucking cattle. Oh yeah, and stop imprisoning so many god damn Americans. This government jails more of its population than any country on Earth. Land of the free my ass.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:07 am

Responding to comment above that protesters bum rushed the YMCA. I was there all day and know many involved. The sequence of events was that at that point protesters were marching nonviolently near the Y. Then police trapped them in that one area. Police gave orders to disperse. There was no way to disperse. Police started closing in and making arrests. (By the way, I somehow miraculously squeaked by police line a little before this started happening. They were marching full bore at me and others like an army and my intuition said uh oh, this looks bad, so I sort of begged and slid my way past them, even though they were ordering me to keep moving on ahead of them, before they really locked down on everyone. Timing and luck?) Protesters ran into the Y to escape the police. And in fact, a YMCA employee opened the door, perhaps not intending to let in a hundred or more people. But nobody busted into the Y, and many protesters ran out another door and escaped. Some were arrested by the police following in hot pursuit. That's what actually happened. The major media got it completely wrong immediately that night – announced that protesters had broken into the Y to take it over, etc. The news outlets quoted the police and city, and had almost nobody commenting from Occupy Oakland, mainly because hundreds were under arrest and others were still outdoors, and I'm shock, etc.
Interesting sidenote: it so happens that I was on the local 11 pm network news because a reporter interviewed me in streets. Several minutes on that TV broadcast were devoted to the city and police storyline, and they had only about six seconds of me commenting. Chose a simple statement about police being heavyhanded and left out my more detailed, articulate, and balanced (believe it or not) comments. It was as though they were putting in just a few seconds of a protester's comments to give the very slight appearance of being fair and balanced. Right.
And by the way, I've been at most Occupy Oakland events, and I have never ever thrown anything at an officer or any property, never damaged property, never yelled obscenities at an officer, never hurt or struck anyone, etc. And I represent many, and I would say the majority, of Occupy Oakland members.
There is a small group that is more aggressive and angry, understandably so, since many of them have been oppressed by the Oakland police all their lives, and they're quite a lot of recent converts to the philosophy a more aggressive, angry approach to the police after the treatment they have received over the last many weeks here at Occupy Oakland. I understand this, but many of us at OO don't condone aggressive tactics. I will say that, seeing how Oakland police behave in person first-hand has somewhat radicalized me – has not turned me into a violent, aggressive person, but has made me angry at them and more sympathetic to those others who are.
I could go on… Such a complex situation with so much to say… But I'll spare you. :-) guess I'd better write a book.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:24 pm

Thanks for your comment. You learn a lot from reading between the lines and the Police and Media narratives need to be called out for the lies that they are telling.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 6:21 am
Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 9:28 pm

I am shocked at how many believe the slanted reporting of the media. They are owned by the 1%. Think people.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 10:05 pm

"O divine art of subtlety and secrecy! Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible;"

"The spot where we intend to fight must not be made known; for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack at several different points;"

"So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak."

"Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation to the foe whom he is facing."

"He who can modify his tactics in relation to his opponent and thereby succeed in winning, may be called a heaven-born captain"

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 10:11 pm

I understand that jail isn't for wimps but if your child was in there you want him to be treated with the rights we follow as Americans. Especially when your locked up

Posted by edwars on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 10:39 pm

The cops are the lap dogs of the crooked scum bag globalist banking establishment that rules our country! Most "cops" are cops because they love to exercise their power over others, some are good people, most just want to F$&k sh&t up! They are attacking their own citizens, we live in a country that has been high jacked by fascism and a coup has taken place! Elitist families that have run things for a very long time are on the top of the pyramid and they will not relinquish their power, they seek to destroy the financial system of our country and have done so to most of Europe! They want violence to rein so they can sick their lap dogs on the people and then cry gun control and institute a tough police state down our throats, look around it is happening before your very eyes. The Nation Defense Authorization Act, signed and passed by our traitorist congress and president, states it can indefinitely detain citizens without due process indefinitely! Police state? Reality! The establishment are afraid of the movements that are popping up around this country, the great awakening of Americans. The truth will set your mind free if you let it! The spirit of revolution is alive in America and will be until the crooks in power are dealt with!

Posted by And the Band plays on... on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 10:40 pm

What a bunch of hypocrite swine! I think they should have to swap sides of the bars with those protestors for NUMEROUS reasons. Screw those dirty pigs.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 10:41 pm

Re: Lots of contradictions going on!
“How is it now HUGE that the tiny things you mention as some horrible law breaking activity of protestors is a big deal when MAJOR CORRUPTION, THEFT, INSIDER TRADING, LIES, TREASON, POISONING (by food, water and air), and PLANNED DESTRUCTION of America is just overlooked?”
Did I say it was HUGE? Did I say there isn’t corruption, lies, treason, and greed? How fortunate that we have anarchists to save the country!

The 99%
"Think!": Who the hell do you think you are? It's not up to you to decide who is the 99% and who is not. However, I will say that what the Anarchist group did at City Hall is unacceptable, at least to me.”
Where exactly did I “decide” who is the 99%? I wrote “If you show up to a riot with a mask and shield with an Anarchist sign on it, you're up to no fucking good, and you're not about the 99% either.” You agreed that what they did in City Hall was unacceptable. How would anarchy benefit the 99%, or anybody for that matter? How is continually trashing Oakland, affecting small businesses, preventing working people from getting to work, etc., hurting the 1%, increasing justice and equality, or benefiting the 99%?

“Won't SOMEBODY please! Think about the CHILDREN!
Their art display was TRASHED!
For the good of the children all protests are now banned and will result in indefinite detention at Guantanamo.”
Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that destroying kids’ art was so constructive, like putting a knife in the hearts of all the greedy bastards! Nor did I suspect that those kids were all part of the 1%. Silly me! And where did Guantanamo come from? You pulled it out of your ass!

In not one single place did I say anybody should be prevented from assembling or having free speech. Nor did I say anything supportive of the oligarchy that rules the country. I pointed out contradictions in the article, and said anarchists with masks and shields (I should also have mentioned weapons) are up to no good. Can’t you people see any other alternatives than anarchy or totalitarianism? Occupy Oakland by letting anarchists run amok is alienating large numbers of 99%ers, and the destruction is not helping the 99% or hurting the 1% at all! Would you really prefer that the police stay completely away, and while the majority of the crowd are protesting, the anarchists can burn the whole city down?

Posted by Think! on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 11:04 pm

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