Occupy Oakland inmates at Santa Rita attacked- developing story

Santa Rita jail in Dublin, CA


In the aftermath of the mass arrests of Occupy Oakland protesters-- and whoever else happend to be on the wrong street at the wrong time-- on Jan. 28 in Oakland, there have been loads of reports and rumors about brutality inflicted on those arrested. Most of those arrested were held in Santa Rita jail.

My observations:

I spent 20 hours in jail, and I saw some cruel treatment. I saw people suffering after being denied medication. I saw people with allergies to the food that was provided refused any substitute and unable to eat, sometimes for more than 24 hours. I saw people crammed into holding cells meant for groups a third their size, so that some people had to remain standing, sometimes for more than 24 hours. As many arrestees were wearing clothing coated in tear gas and pepper spray, those chemicals continued to waft through cells and affect all present.


I have reports directly from sources of arrested occupiers being beat up in jail with police batons. At least 20 people were ziptied, meaning their hands were cuffed behind their backs-- and more often than not, if they happen to be cuffed too tightly and their hands go numb and even blue, police won't loosen them-- for more than eight hours. I know that some people who were denied access to a restroom ended up sitting in their own vomit and urine for at least four hours in some cases.

UPDATE Another report from Joshua Clover, a professor of English at UC Davis, who was released Monday night, :
"I was held for 53 hours for a misdemeanor charge which every single person here, and there, knows will never be brought, and indeed which will be met with a class action suit for wrongful arrest that the city of Oakland will be compelled to settle. I have a perforated peptic ulcer. Early on in the stay I requested non—prescription care — liquid antacid, which the jail keeps on hand — when I began to have an ulcer attack, which is to say, when I began to bleed internally. I was not given such care until an attorney was able to intervene by phone many hours later. I received one capful, which was mildly effective for about three hours. Further requests were ignored. As many will know, a bleeding ulcer attack is both painful and potentially fatal"

UPDATE When I questioned Alameda County Sheriff's Department Public Information Officer Sergeant JD Nelson about this, he responded that "[Clover] was obviously seen by a medical person, and they said that was enough medicine."

But accoridng to Clover, via an email, "The one time that I received medication, a deputy came to the cell door accompanied by someone who may have been a nurse, holding a capful of antacid. I asked for more but was not given it." And was Clover seen by a medical professional to determine the correct amount of medication? He says, "Definitely not."

Also according to Clover, "Food was often not provided for periods of up to 14 hours. For a long period I shared a cell with 27 other people; it was about ten by ten feet. For a period I was in a cell labeled 'Maximum Occupancy: Two.' There were ten of us, three very sick. We stood. One of the people slumped over on the toilet, that being the alternative to standing."


"Three people I know were denied medication for HIV infections while being held for multiple days, which is a life-threatening choice made by the county"

"two women were denied anti-depressants that they had with them when they went to jail"

UPDATE According to an anonymous source, "My 12x12 cell had 28 people. There was a toilet, a concrete bench, and enough hard floor space for three or four of us to sleep at a time. A girl in the cell across from ours told the guards she needed Lexapro or she would go into withdrawl. They ignored the request. One of my cellmates was HIV-positive. When I last saw him at 2 a.m. on Monday morning he had not yet been given his medications. As I exited the jail I saw a woman who had just been released lying on the floor. She was having a seizure and being tended to by a couple of firemen."

UPDATE From Alyssa Eisenberg, who has multiple sclerosis:
"I take my medication at least twice a day...without it, the pain is, everything kind of goes numb and tightens up. Somtimes I can't even see without it. When  had to sign the booking form about noon i couldn't even see it, my vision was so blurry...I was told they don't give meds to people that are going to be cited and released, only to people that are going to stay and get charged."

Unconfirmed reports:

Daily Kos quotes an anonymous source who reports that "prisoners from the Oakland Commune were being denied medications (some had seizures) while the guards said they didnt care if they died. Some people were brutally beaten. The put tear gas in the vents of my cell twice."
According to Occupy Oakland media spokesperson Omar Yassin, a report that someone was tear gassed in the jail's hallway is likely credible.

Then there's the peolpe who were injured during the protests Jan. 28. Also according to Yassin:

At least a dozen people had welts on their faces or bodies from being beaten by clubs or shot with rubber bullets. One woman was shot in both arms with rubber bullet; one man was shot in the face with rubber bullets while holding a video camera to document the events. Several protesters were shoved to the ground and received wounds on their faces while being arrested. Police raised their rubber-bullet rifles to the faces of protesters throughout the day, threatening attacks-- a rubber bullet to the face can cause brain damage and blindness.


A spokesperson for the Alameda County Sheriff's Department refused to comment, although she did say that they've "been bombarded with calls about this all day." Shocker.

UPDATE According to Alameda County Sheriff's Department Public Information Officer Sergeant JD Nelson, no complaints of mistreatment at Santa Rita have been filed.

Nelson said that peanut butter was made avaliable to vegans those allergic to meat, in direct contrast to what I witnessed in jail.

In response to reports that some detainees were held on buses in the Santa Rita parking lot for up to eight hours, during which time they were refused bathroom access and in some cases made to sit in their own urine and vomit, Nelson said that "Generally when they come to the jail the buses are unloaded fairly quickly. Obviously some people are going to go first, some last."

He told me that detainees were denied medication because "We do we allow them to take their medication in jail. People will try to smuggle stuff in."

When asked about reported beating in jail, Nelson replied, "I haven't gotten any reports of any skirmishes between officers and those arrested. We would report it if  there was any use of force,"

According to Nelson, the Alameda County Sheriff's Office has video footage of all of the areas in the jail where arrestees were held, and, unless there was a lawsuit preventing its release, he would make the footage available to me soon. For now he said, "I don't even know if they've been developed." (Is this 1984? Not in the Orwellian sense. In the technology sense.)

More on this soon. Send me information that you have, yael@sfbg.com


Welcome to our world........
Not a fan of "occupying already occupied land in Oakland" also known as occupy Oakland. The majority of folks out there where not from my city, have not been hearing my and other people of color concerns and then act as if they have seen the worst police brutality ever, give me a damn break. Did some one really complain about being zip tied? Welcome to our world where black and brown men are thrown into a jail cell for merely being black or brown, a system that calculates the need for more prisons based on the grades received in the 3rd grade. A system where police value our lives less than they do a deer( remember the apology they gave for shooting the deer) a system that has failed us for the last 400 years, not just since the decline of the economy. We are fighting for our lives! You want to go fuck shit up do it in piedmont!!!! If you want to support my community come to 73rd and Halliday, 98th and Bancroft, how about seminary and foothill? That's where community is fighting this injustice, that's where community is suffering
Oh and tell your patnas to STOP GENTRIFYING WEST OAKLAND!!!

Posted by Guest on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 11:49 pm

If you value property over human life, you are scum. Clucking armchair torture fans will not be so smug when the armies of repression turn against them. Callous indifference to your fellow humans is a sure sign of sociopathy, no wonder these cowards idolize the police, a force well paid to act on their festering misanthropy in the name of protecting private property.

Posted by Le Duc on Jan. 31, 2012 @ 11:55 pm

I was treated poorly because I streamed the arrests.


I was there. The MSM has lied about everything.

Posted by Christina Kay on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:14 am

It's all a lot of made up bs, not corroborated, not verified. One report from a very suspect sfbg reporter and another "anonymous source" via daily kos. Nobody in their right mind will take any of this seriously, which is why it's a non story. The real story is how these non oakland resident "occupy oakland" folks are single handedly ruining the entire national occupy movement.

Posted by oakland resident on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:34 am

Well, Lets see? Don't like jail? then do right and don't go to Jail. Jail is not meant to be a Hippie coffee house. If you work within the parameters of the law to get your word out this would not happen to you. Also, maybe your opinions would actually carry more weight. Everyone has the right to their opinions is this great country, however not to break the law.

Posted by Guest Ray Hawk on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 5:40 am

Do you think that there might be any reason why liberal shepherd MSNBC shows Lockup Raw after Rachel Maddow and all weekend? It is to let the liberals know what's in store for them if they don't play by the rules and start getting uppity and making demands:


Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 6:36 am

Walter you sound just like a cop.You are still provoking people with your dumbass comments about "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time".You are a punk's punk!!!Don't you have any gay porno videos to keep you busy??? Or is your butthole bleeding and you have no tampons to stem the flow? FOAD!!!

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 6:41 am

I am appalled at the way the comments have gone to a debate on whether or not these People did a crime [I do not think most of them did] from what the article is really about .

The article is about human rights violations! But from a country that accepts water boarding and more, as not being torture and against the Geneva convention, is a country that would get side tracked and accept that even every day citizens can be treated like this.

I did swear I read the article where the United States changed the laws saying water boarding was not torture but I missed the part when they changed the rights of those arrested or even convicted of crimes to be abused and mistreated in this manner in civil matters and the Judicial system . If anyone has this information please post it so we can all learn . I miss America

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 7:29 am

Affirmations (repeat 3 times each)

"I am invisible to the cops."

"I can overthrow the government by myself."

"My bricks have wings."

"My license plate is illegible."

"I am visualizing Industrial Collapse."

"At the count of 1,2,3, humanity will snap out of it."

"I am protected by the goodwill of all species."

"The life force is on my side."

"I have natural camouflage, I am indistinguishable from a bulldozer or power tower."

"Petroleum will soon run out. The infrastructure will crumble."

"Civilization will dissolve into low tech communities. Time will heal all planetary ills."

"Every step I take I grow in guile and efficacy."

"I can sway the mind of my affinity group."

"I can beat 5 felony charges effortlessly."

"I will pay no fines."

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 8:11 am

I'm puzzled by all these pseudo bad asses crying over the cops.

I'm not excusing any cop misdeeds or rationalizing.

What these people fail to understand is, if you keep escalating a situation things are going to go bad. Evolution has human beings only tolerating so much.

Posted by matlock on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 12:51 pm

These kids need to seriously read some Sun Tzu if they want to achieve their goals instead of be seen as being more radical by all of their friends.

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 1:26 pm

BREAKING NEWS: the middle class learn about jail.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 8:55 am

I'm just not understanding why so many want to discourage or demean the efforts of those that are trying their best to make a positive change in this country. If you're a member of the 99% (as we ALL are) but don't like the way the protestors are going about representing our frustration with how Wall Street and the Government are killing our country, why not express a more sound approach instead of jeering them with discouraging insults from the comforts of your Lazy Boy easy chair? These people are out there actually DOING something in behalf of disenfranchised America and Americans. What are YOU doing other than grousing at the protestors on the evening news and hoping one of this year's presidential candidates will wave their wand and magically restore our economy? Don't discourage--ENcourage change.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 9:15 am

I hope they all get sued and Oakland loses its arse in the prospect. Then maybe in the future the psychopath enforces will be told to behave themselves? They should be fired and jailed for assault. Why should they be above the law they are supposed to be protecting?

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 9:36 am

I'm hoping to see the day that the cops go too far and people start showing them where the real power lies. Fuck the police. Granted I'm not your typical non-violent protestor. I'm more of a Hamurabi code kinda guy.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 10:43 am

A great day for the residents of Oakland. If the anarchy hobbyists stewed in their own filth for a while, so much the better.

Posted by Chromefields on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 11:26 am

It is very puzzling though, many posting here seem to think they have license to run wild and riot because their world view is such that they are entitled to run wild and riot.

When the establishment doesn't go for this animal behavior, the people with license to act out are appalled and take that as a sign that they are being persecuted.

It's a very odd unilateral view.

Posted by matlock on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:04 pm

This page's comments should be classified as a "Not Suitable for Children" to warn people about the massive amount of jerking off you guys are doing to one another. Its amusing that none of you here have realized that whining on the internet is half the reason people are getting screwed in the real world. If cops want to tank on arrestees, I'm sure a bunch of bitching on the internet is going to make them very ashamed of their actions!

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 12:39 pm

“The world is dividing into two blocs, the plutonomy and the rest" “The U.S., U.K. and Canada are the key plutonomies, economies powered by the wealthy.” The American Empire's dark side is coming home to the "Homeland" now. And now we see the real side of the American Empire. Before, It was OK ,to watch foreigners being abused...but now that the American people/citizens are being abused . .

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 1:12 pm

Once a person is locked behind bars, it is the captor's responsibility to ensure that person's health. It is illegal for police to beat a prisoner or otherwise cause harm to that person, regardless of his or her crime.

Should people who need medications be more careful in these situations? Of course. Should the police ignore the needs of prisoners? Definitely not.
Do other countries also engage in police brutality of prisoners? Irrelevant, the US is supposed to be better than that. We are becoming a third world country.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 1:17 pm

Honeysuckle tea is hella fine.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 1:33 pm

its easy to sit at my computer and talk shit on people and their actions, because the basic point is their is no way you can hurt me physically of mentally if i dont go back to the page. I honestly doubt that any of the skeptics and cynics were their, or have ever stepped out of line. simply put I was not in Oakland at the time, I seen the head lines on the news stations, and i also seen video of the day and read first hand reports. I dont know the absolute truth. and honestly I couldnt care about who the agitators were, the protesters, vandles, or police. but the responce that happened is the truth. and frankly their are a lot, again A LOT more pissed off people in the world then peaceful protesters. and the rules no violence or vandlism do not apply because they absolutely have nothing to lose. Keep Occupy in the headlines, keep the negative spin, because we are gaining more and more communities who oppose the establishment and what they say.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 1:50 pm

You get to do whatever you want and the state just needs to let you have at it?

You get more rights than other people because you are angry?

Posted by guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:06 pm

How much private property did the 1% destroy using financial weapons of mass destruction?

Posted by marcos on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:25 pm

You get to destroy and run rampage because someone else did it, in an entirely different manner.

Someone gets to riot because they fired Joe Paterno.

Someone get to riot because abortion doctors are killing babies.


See how that works? Everyone with some revealed world view with a sense of entitlement gets to run wild.

The apologists for rioting have interesting antecedents


Posted by guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 3:31 pm

Fuck the police. This is why NO ONE respects pigs these days. Anyone with a pig in their family should be ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED. I would immediately disown any pig in my family. They need to find a real job.

Posted by Why Are Pigs Such Cowards on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:17 pm

Cops = pigs. Do not cooperate with them. Do not talk to them. If they ask you for the time. Ignore them. They are not worthy of a response. These are lazy cowards who enjoy and get off on abusing real human beings. Cops are not real human beings. Do not treat them as such.

Posted by LOL Cops on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

This is how Santa Rita is opperated! Do they think they are the first to not want the mystery meat sandwich, wit a Benard! If this article is shocking to you, you should be aware that these type of actions happen everyday! It's just the under privladged don't have a voice, that you find creditable!!

Posted by Spotless on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 2:28 pm

all the cop haters, if they were assaulted, shot, knifed, robbed, or raped, would not make a police report and if somebody called the cops they'd tell the cops to get away from them? I thought the SFBG was about progressives. If the posters here are an example of the readership, it's about anarchists. Welcome to Clockwork Orange! Apparently that's the ONLY alternative to what exists in the U.S. now. Pathetic.

Posted by Think! on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 5:08 pm

IT was an example of what will happen again anywhere.

The cops hope they never see any of the 400 again.

When they do, they wont be gentle.

California is a police state.

The USA is a police country with a Marxist President.

Live and Learn. Dont go to the next protest unless you

are very healthy and can take a rubber bullet in the face.

Dont eat the jail food.

Dont be stupid.

The 400 were stupid. They got arrested. That is pretty stupid.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 5:55 pm

Why are people writing these comments anonymously?
I find anonymity reduces credibility.

Posted by Roland Salvato on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 7:25 pm

Roland, I'm pleased to call you by your name, one I imagine you are proud of. First time I have seen it here. It's a long sad story. For many years this site was a forum for people with divergent ideas and opinions to engage in constructive dialog. In the past 4 or 5 years it has become infested with a particular type of vermin who are to scared/ashamed/gutless to identify themselves, and post as 'guest', 'anonymous', or sometimes even try and masquerade under another's 'name'. On the other hand there are a few, including myself, from both sides of the political spectrum, who have consistently posted under their real name, or handle; those of us who have been involved in SF politics for decades either know, or have a pretty good idea, who those folks are even if they only post as 'marcos' or 'greg'. As far as I'm concerned there is little difference between the majority of the 'rest' and those ignorant cowards who hid behind white hoods and burned crosses, some of them possibly still do. I think you are being overly generous by saying 'anonymity reduces credibility'. If you read most of their comments I think you will find they are a combination of some or all of the following; ignorant, hate-filled, sophomoric, ugly, racist, misogynistic, elitist, myopically prejudiced, and just plain fucking stupid. My advice is to shun them, don't encourage them by responding to their bullshit. I don't always follow my own advice because sometimes, when I have time, it is fun to draw them out until they finally out themselves for the bigots they really are, which they will do eventually. It's kinda like keeping a tele-marketer on the line for half an hour with all kindsa questions while you're folding laundry; cutting your toenails: getting some kinda slow buzz on: the putting them on hold for a while and then hanging up. They can't 'win'; Why?. Well for one reason, 'according to Webster', anonymous means: "lacking individuality, unique character, or distinction". So who the fuck gives a good godamn about what such losers might say.
Apologies if I make an ethnic assumption, pero
Much gusto Senor Salvato.
Just my 2c.

Posted by Patrick Monk. RN on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 10:37 pm

If the occupy movement was so horrible then they wouldn't have the support of the bay area unions, and the undocumented support of the Alameda Labor Council. Occupy's help at the Union City, CA, Red Vine licorice protest was extremly helpful, and eventually Red Vine re-opened negotiations. GO OCCUPY!!!!!! ^_^ Anyone else speaking matter of factly that hasn't been to labor council, or Union hall meetings IS FULL OF SHIT. ^_^

Posted by Guest on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 9:38 pm

or Egypt, or Bahrain... fill-in-the-blank with your favorite US-backed hellhole. Torture in the jails... mass arrests... people's hands being tied so tightly that circulation is cut off... yeah, I know, they're not shooting people with live ammunition. Yet. Don't worry. We'll get there if need be. The only reason we're not quite there yet, is because those in power have a tighter grip on it here. Don't forget, we incarcerate a larger proportion of our citizens than any of these third world dictatorships.

Posted by Greg on Feb. 01, 2012 @ 10:58 pm

I think you forgot to include "get off my lawn!" Monk is truly the Abe Simpson of the SFBG.

Posted by Chromefields on Feb. 02, 2012 @ 7:36 am

the OO people should march and protest in Dublin over there treatment by ALCo Deputies.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 02, 2012 @ 7:47 am

I wish there was a way i could be at these protests. im literaly stuck in Bowling green, kentucky. Do any of you know of a site that can tell me where the occupy movements are in kentucky?

Posted by Anonymous Knight on Feb. 02, 2012 @ 9:36 am

Poverty is the worst form of violence" —Ganghi

If we start from this premise, then Occupy is simply responding to this reality, as any awake person or movement would do.

But now we have the police inflicting unnecessary violence to the force that is trying to alleviate the first needless violence.

MLK: "True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar ... it comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring". This is what Occupy is trying to address.

Violence is at the root of all we see today. Last weekend was a ironic theatre vérité of what is wrong with society. And how we can help or hurt.

Posted by Daniele E. on Feb. 02, 2012 @ 10:06 am

It's funny that you're too sick for jail, but not too sick to protest, vandalize, and disrupt our city.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 02, 2012 @ 3:50 pm

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/02/20122261354555340.html this is a link to infomation concerning the investigations into the past behaviour of the oakland police dept An example: Three of the officers were charged with multiple felonies. Besides Batt, eight witnesses, all African-American men who had been arrested by the four, testified against the Riders. They all claimed to have been beaten and some to having drugs planted on them during their arrests. During the trial, Batt corroborated their stories, describing how one man was pepper-sprayed and beaten before being driven under an overpass, pulled out of the cop cruiser, and beaten further by two of the officers, how another was choked by one of the officers, and how he was forced to lie about everything. (I would like to add,that this news agency above,is praised by Hillary Clinton as being a good source of news,that stands above us news agencies... thats the Hillary Clinton in the US government,in case you were wondering...)

Posted by Guest on Feb. 03, 2012 @ 5:10 am

"I haven't gotten any reports of any skirmishes between officers and those arrested. We would report it if there was any use of force,"

I've been to jail in an unrelated part of this country simply for voicing my opinion... I can entirely relate to the mistreatment going on both inside and out of the jails in this for-profit coorporation.

Telling people that they "shouldn't have been there, should have known better" is like accusing a women for being raped because she dressed provocatively.

This, coming from a reclusive man.

Posted by Reıd on Feb. 03, 2012 @ 2:18 pm

Peaceful protest is constitutional. Causing mayhem and vandalizing property in the exercise of protesting God only knows what, is not a right afforded under the constitution. Break the law. Go to jail. If the holding cells are crowded because all your low-life friends in your institutions of higher education decided to join you rather than go to class, oh well. You get no sympathy from me.

Posted by Gue on Feb. 03, 2012 @ 9:11 pm

I have been detained at Santa Rita jail as a YMCA occupant on Saturday at 2 a.m. Afterwards I have spent 82 hours in there, only 20 minutes of which have been spent in the General Population pods with proper bedding and food. The rest of the time was spent in holding cells with 24/7 fluorescent lighting and half toilets half sinks which didn't work at times, leading us to spend up to 8 hours in a room smelling of our own urine.
On the fourth day of arrest, I and four others have admitted to have started hallucinating from the lack of sleep. Because of the conditions I slept for only about 5 hours out of the 82 spent there. Also, spending almost all the time in the holding cells meant having a diet consisting purely of fake bologna, Bernard calcium mix, two soggy cookies, two pieces of sawdust bread and a cup. When I told the guards that I have Gastritis, a stomach disease, and must sustain a constant diet in order to prevent ulcers he told me that the disease is not fatal and thus I have to wait another 5 hours till the next bologna "meal."
The guards also mocked us by doing such things as putting the keys into the keyhole, arousing everyone in the cell, and then taking them out and walking away. This, and a few other psychoviolent tricks, were tried upon us multiple times. Another constant restrain that they have put upon us is lack of adequate temperature. At times they blasted the coolers forcing us to huddle for warmth and at times they put 60 of us in a 20 person cell and turned on the heater without allowing us access to cold water.
I see my time spent at Santa Rita as a direct attack on my psyche and an attempt to torture.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 04, 2012 @ 1:13 am

Occupy isn't about us versus them. The smarter officers know this. Many supporters and participants of Occupy know it. Officers are paid relatively well to do what they do. For that and other reasons, they keep their careers which requires doing as they are told to keep their jobs. They are under much of the same financial pressures as everyone else.

But try finding a job in this economy in most other fields. Adults, many with former white collar careers, would be lucky to find something in retail for $12/hour. That means wages have gone nowhere in 20 years, or even backwards,

Occupy wouldn't exist if issues like this which affect so many working class people were addressed. That's one reason that last night's demonstration was greeted with cheers as I observed.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 05, 2012 @ 9:09 am

Conditions in both state and county incarceration centers are extremely bad. For a description of what's going on at the Valley State Prison for Women currently see my blog: http://blog.damiross.net/

In short, the guards are upset because some are being fired so they are taking out their anger on the inmates.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 05, 2012 @ 1:33 pm

I do not support the occupy movement, however no one should be treated like this because of their involvement in the movement

Posted by Guest on Feb. 06, 2012 @ 11:22 am

Back in the sixties they were a lot better at breaking up demonstrations.
At Kent State they just shot a few people and the rest of the people left the scene.
Civil rights are great to have but the reality is that your protest actions will get you arrested. You don't have to be guilty to be arrested since only the prosecutors can actually determine if they will take the case to court.
Being let out of jail is just their way of letting you know what power they have to effect your life. If you want to take the cops to court please do so, but be prepared to have your tax money used to pay for the prosecution
I was in SF during sixties and the mounted police horse charges that they used were also effective.
Most people decided they would rather not spend another night in Jail so they stayed away from further protests.
You need to make the choice. If you are willing to do the time in jail for what you say are your 1st amendment rights great. That is your constitutional right to self expression..Just make sure that the organizers of the protest are there in the trenches with you. If they are not in the same jail cell it means they made you the fall guy for their cause.
Kinds like being sent to Iraq to fight someone else's war.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 09, 2012 @ 6:14 pm

Inhuman treatment is going to happen when too many people are arrested at the same time. Officers have orders NOT to distribute anytype of medical treatment unless done by qualified people: If you stop and think, it would obvious why. If it were me, and things started to getout of control, I would bring out the water cannons and wash the "persons" away. That way, we get clean people, clean streets and no overfilled jails.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 09, 2012 @ 11:01 pm

You just as stupid. Dumb ass hell people like you shouldn't comment if you don't have nothin intelligent to say. No matter what inhumane treatment of people should not be tolerated. Now. You should be washed down the gutter with the rest of asshole who feel that way

Posted by Francheska slay on Nov. 13, 2012 @ 9:09 am

Reading all of this makes me glad that I punched one of those pigs and pushed the other,and damn those lil guys can fly and its funny when it takes 10 (or more) of them to pin you down while they slice your arm with their standard issued knife and as they have you shackled up they sure can act super hardcore.

Posted by Sonofbinladen on Sep. 03, 2012 @ 8:26 pm

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