Mayor and Mirkarimi testify in Ethics probe before dramatic disruption

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Mayor Ed Lee testifies under oath before the Ethics Commission.
Mike Koozmin

After Sheriff Ross Mirkarimi endured about four hours of questioning in his official misconduct proceedings, mostly from Deputy City Attorney Peter Keith, Mayor Ed Lee took the stand a little after 1pm. But just as Mirkarimi attorney Shepherd Kopp was beginning to pin Lee down on the selective manner in which he decided to launch these unprecedented proceedings, the commission suddenly announced the hearing was being suspended and the room would need to be cleared immediately.

There is speculation that there was a bomb threat or other security emergency, but officials have so far offered no explanation for the dramatic development or whether the hearing would reconvene today. Yet the room is still half-filled with journalists and audience members, some speculating that that the clearing of the room was simply an effort to get the unusually grim-faced Lee off the hot seat.

Kopp's questioning included pointed questions about whether he consulted any members of the Board of Supervisors before deciding to bring official misconduct charges against Mirkarimi in March. The city's objection was overruled after Kopp noted that the supervisors will ultimately decide Mirkarimi's fate. Forced to answer under oath, Lee said no, he didn't speak to any supervisors before filing charges.

But progressive activist Debra Walker says Sup. Christina Olague -- women who are close political allies and speak regularly -- has repeatedly told her that Mayor Lee asked her opinion before filing the charges. If true, that would mean Mayor Lee committed perjury, which is a felony. Yet as reporters confronted Olague outside her office, she denied ever speaking with Lee about the case and then barricaded herself in her office.

When the reporters lingered and persisted, she finally emerged, reiterated her denial, refused to speculate about why her friend Walker would make that claim, and said, "We're not allowed to discuss this matter with anyone before it comes to the board...I may have to recuse myself from voting on this."

It was unclear why she thought recusal might be necessary, but if she does that would hurt Lee's effort to get the nine votes on the board needed to remove Mirkarimi.

We'll have complete analysis of the testimony and other developments in next week's Guardian.

 

Comments

Right, and whitewater was about Monica lewinsky and perjury, watergate was about break ins, plumbing leaks and perjury and obstruction of justice.

Ed Lee has overplayed his hand and now it looks like he's staring down the charges that took out political schemers like Nixon and Clinton.

Posted by marcos on Jul. 01, 2012 @ 7:49 pm

That's what this is REALLY about after all, right? Errr - I mean Ivory Madison. Errr - Ed Lee.

Posted by Troll II on Jul. 01, 2012 @ 7:56 pm

Felony Perjury.

Posted by marcos on Jul. 01, 2012 @ 8:34 pm

They're all going down! Felony perjury all around! Burn them at the stake!

Hehehehe - this is really becoming hilarious. I've always thought you were fairly rational Marcos - I never believed you'd fall prey to the wild ravings of say - Christine Craft.

Posted by Troll II on Jul. 01, 2012 @ 8:49 pm

people in the alleged "conversation" deny it ever happened, and moreover Walker's "evidence" is hearsay because she admits she wasn't there?

This should be good, so I'll wait for your legal brief.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 3:44 am

When the Ethics Commission calls Ed Lee and other associated parties to this back for more testimony and they can't keep their stories straight?

Posted by marcos on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 6:28 am
Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 8:59 am

They can't understand that "keeping the story straight" involves telling the truth. It's totally alien to their way of thinking. Look how much trouble Marcos is having understanding that logic.

Posted by Troll II on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 4:31 pm

"progressive activist Debra Walker"

The perrenial district job hunter's shopping continues.

She ran for the school board, lost, for supervisor twice, lost, lost. Now a planning commissioner.

With all that job hunting, how does she have time for her art?

Posted by Guest Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 9:59 am

But even I didn't expect bare-faced lies and attempts to discredit public officials.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 11:18 am

I have personally attended meetings with Mayor Lee at which he proudly explained that he considers himself a political novice and that he willingly listens to and consults with those politicians who have preceded him in public service. He claimed to consult by telephone with former mayors Brown and Newsom on a near daily basis. It's how he sees himself in the public eye--just a regular fellow, trying to do his best for the city he loves. If you think he didn't discuss the suspension of the Sheriff with a myriad of political office holders and former office holders before taking action,you're delusional. As for Ms. Walker's comment, I tend to believe it. But believe it or not, a personal attack on her integrity which employs distasteful and inappropriate imagery, is not the product of a worthwhile mentality. It's infantile and relegates the writer to the back of the line in this discussion. We'll return to you little man after you've had a nap,eh?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 10:18 am

claiming to know what was said between two people in a meeting that she didn't attend, and where both of the attendees deny that topic was discussed at all.

The only people who believe Walker are those who want to. And ironically it's the same people who don't think Ross should lose his job over an act of violence who also believe that our Mayor should be persecuted because a repeat political loser like Walker has a fanciful imagination.

If Walker wants a smoking gun, go find evidence that Lee beats his wife.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 11:21 am

I believe Ms Walker said that Ms Olague told her that Mr Ed had discussed the issue with her, not the substance of the alleged conversation.

Posted by Patrick Monk RN on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 11:03 am
Posted by marcos on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 12:14 pm

Just the "word" of a discreditted and bitter political loser - Walker.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 12:17 pm

That doesn't matter, Ed Lee has lost the confidence of San Franciscans to lead, haven't you seen the polls?

Posted by marcos on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 12:51 pm

where he asks his liberal friends and extrapolates that everyone in SF is as hopelessly liberal as him?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 1:31 pm

In fact, you have no more knowledge of my informal poll's sample than you have of the ridiculously bogus "poll" that the SF Chronicle dirtbags have promoted, which was secret and was conducted by an outfit which strangely empasizes their ability to get "results" on their website. But of course, having absolutely no intellectual integrity, you are able to excoriate my poll while extolling the other.

Which is fine with me... as long as you remember to go fuck yourself.

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 1:45 pm

Is this how you react when losing an argument? The Magic 8 ball says yes.

Posted by Troll II on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 2:38 pm
Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 3:05 pm

because he knows how damning it is for his wife-beating idol.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 3:40 pm

Please. Can you at least try to make sense even if you only mean to tell credible lies?

No? I thought not.

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 3:47 pm

It was reported by a number of sources, so that's a hell of a lot of liars. Unless of course you're just trying way too hard to deiscredit a poll that shows your precious Ross as being a political liability and publicly despized figure.

And by the way, every single person i have spoken to IRL about Ross has agreed that he should resign and that Lee is correct in firing him.

Coincidence?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 4:05 pm

widely reported to boot.

Just to be clear, what I'm denying the existence of is a poll credibly showing that 76% of San Francisco voters want Mirkarimi out of office. The very fact that the Mirkarimi haters are flogging such a ridiculously suspect polls as proof of their numbers strongly suggests the truth is nothing of the sort.

Of the two polls that have been reported by anyone, one was conducted in March before Mirkarimi had a chance to tell his side of the story, and the other is a mystery poll of which absolutely no information regarding its population sample or the questions asked have been released. A total secret. (Care to name a few of the "number of sources" which reported this second utterly bogus poll? Because I think it was just the Comical -- unless you are counting the likes of yourself and Troll II.)

If you truthfully say that every single person you have spoken to regarding Ross Mirkarimi "agrees" that he should resign, then it is clear that *your* poll sample is defective. I don't claim everyone I spoke to -- without prompting them so I could later say they "agreed" or "disagreed" by the way -- supports Mirkarimi. But the vast majority think that either he has done nothing wrong which he should be forced from office for or that Mayor Lee/DA Gascon behavior is the most troubling in that the Mirkarimi family interests have been sacrificed so cavalierly.

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 4:46 pm

"everyone I talk to" is not?

If you want to convene a third poll to try and see if it's any different from the two already done both consistently showing over 70% of voters want Ross gone, then do so.

But my informal polling has the figures as 70% plus too, so you're fighting long odds there.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:18 pm

"every single person i have spoken to IRL about Ross has agreed that he should resign and that Lee is correct in firing him"!

But, of course, despite your latest implicit admission that you made that claim and now seek to contradict yourself, you will no doubt go on being a fucked person and spewing your venomous perversions of truth.

Fucks' sake!

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 10:51 pm

>"(Care to name a few of the "number of sources" which reported this second utterly bogus poll? Because I think it was just the Comical -- unless you are counting the likes of yourself and Troll II.)"

Melissa Griffin in the San Francisco Examiner.

The 76% poll was conducted by the firm of Fairbank, Maslin, Maullin, Metz & Associates. Their client list includes Joe Biden, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Leland Yee and Fiona Ma.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/2012/06/rainbow-flag-colorful-chatter

Now Lilli, take it easy. We're NOT saying that this poll exists. Clearly Melissa Griffin has become part of the 'lying filth' and the poll is utterly bogus. The proof that it is bogus is that it doesn't support your position.

Please don't forget to take your meds.

Posted by Troll on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 6:21 am

... and just four days ago.

So very interesting that a slew of supposed and verisimilitudinous "details" also emerge now over two months after the poll was first "reported" but there's still no information regarding the poll's margin of error, how the sample was generated, or the text of the questions.

Did your reliable and unbiased "news source" Melissa Griffin report where she got her information? No? Not necessary for a gossip columnist to do?

I have never seen so much wind expelled regarding a "poll" which did not have an associated URL all to its very own.

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 7:34 am

Nobody is saying that the poll exists just because the SF Examiner gave out the name of the respected pollster that conducted it, and the numbers jive with what other sources have provided. Nobody is claiming that the owner of the Bay Guardian is a valid news source. Just relax.

Obviously a poll is bogus if it says that people are anti-Mirkarimi, especially now that they have been exposed to his charm for a few weeks. Everyone knows that.

Have you taken your meds yet today?

Posted by Troll on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 8:59 am

Name another "respected pollster" that offers focus groups as a specialty.

"Focus groups are one of FM3's particular specialties, and the firm conducts as many as 150 focus groups each year.

As a technique in public opinion research, focus groups do not measure directly the frequency by which opinions and attitudes may exist within a particular universe of people. Only a random sample survey can provide that type of statistically reliable data about the number of persons holding an opinion. However, focus groups can guide and "focus" thinking about the subjects under discussion."

That might have gone over your head since you are already probably thinking of another way to phrase your coy innuendos, but this outfit is at least as much about controlling public opinion, as honestly measuring it.

I see you are still unable/unwilling to divulge the specifics of the "poll."

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 9:24 am

Nolo contendre!!!

I wasn't aware that FM3 conducted focus groups as part of their practice. Obviously that discredits them as a survey taker. I mean...a firm that does focus groups obviously can not do surveys also.

Zogby, for example, is an example of a firm that does focus groups and tries to paint itself as a valid pollster also, but most people are too smart to fall for that ruse!

A priori? Is that what you taught us last week, Lilli?

Posted by Troll on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 10:42 am

Evidently you missed the reference to "specialty" -- or more likely still, you simply have pretended to miss it. What exactly is your connection with Mayor Lee?

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 12:07 pm

a right-wing conspiracy or that posters here are paid to post.

Hilarious.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 1:08 pm

It's fun to mention them just to see him get all hot and bothered.

If he really doesn't like the poll results, he should stop drawing attention to them in this way.

But he's not very bright, and it's fun to play him.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 03, 2012 @ 9:28 am

I'll be they're going to wilt, after being called too old and too ugly and not sufficiently deferential to people who call them "bitter" to intimidate them.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 2:44 pm

How precious.

Hey Craft - if someone hosts a program on an obscure AM radio station in the middle of the night and no one calls in to ask a question does that mean anyone actually heard it?

BTW - Andrea Dworkin called my Ouija board the other night - she said to stop stealing her look.

Posted by Troll II on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 3:33 pm

one where the skip signal kicks in at night and the signal is heard all over the western US, Canada, Mexico , Hawaii and all of California too? or would it be another one?

is that the station where Phil Bronstein is the "news partner"?

I don't think you are going to be hearing much more of Christine Craft on that station!

ha HAH!!

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:22 pm

a particularly venomous man hater..seen posthumously with the domestic violence crusaders recently, all frowning and perenially disturbed.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:27 pm

Really sad and deranged. What has happened to you?

Posted by Troll II on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:40 pm

keeping her handles straight. Only question is - are they all Walker?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 3:41 pm

Did Ed Lee ever return to finish his testimony? Anyone know anything about that?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 3:42 pm

They give themselves the week off - it's the only time they're ever patriotic.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 3:44 pm

Lee lied and floundered, so they cleared the room for him. That's what happened. Paula Canny said that Sheldon Kopp was getting warmed up, and was on the verge of nailing the mayor when he and he alone was escorted from the room. It seems that Lee was doing nothing to protect himself with his answers and his handlers were concerned. No one else was evacuated except the mayor. Why is that? San Franciscans should demand an thorough investigation. Call in a phony threat is a felony, especially if it was done to keep certain testimony out. Already, the transcripts of the mayor's testimony on June 29 are no longer available on the sfgov tv site. Who is protecting Ed Lee and why?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 4:59 pm

era, when every positive news reports regarding then-presidential candidate John Kerry became the occasion for another bogus "color level orange" from DHS. For christ sake, Bush's own DHS head Tom Ridge admitted it around the time he quit in disgust. Why aren't there more Americans left in this country?

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:15 pm

That's a pretty neat trick for him to pull off, dontchathink?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:28 pm

Because I wasn't. But then, of course you knew that.

My point, of course, was that right-wing/corporatists already have a well-established track record of politicizing terrorism and otherwise using the apparatus of public safety for the purposes of realizing narrow political objectives.

Bush/Cheney's behavior, of course, was far more egregious since it took place on the national level.

Scumbags.

Posted by lillipublicans on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 6:31 pm

Was it a secret signal like, say, when Lee scratches his nose, his aide calls the cops? so many right-wing conspiracy theories; so little time!

Lee is a sworn officer of the city, elected by a huge landslide, speaking under oath and penalty of perjury, with no reason to lie.

And you are?

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:24 pm

should be subpoenaed to testify under oath about the nature of her contact and conversations with the mayor.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:24 pm

Although I don't see anything wrong if they had discussed this. But since Walker is lying, it's moot anyway.

Posted by Guest on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:27 pm

Under oath means nothing anymore - look at Lopez the Liar.

Posted by Troll II on Jul. 02, 2012 @ 5:37 pm

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