Stop meddling

Dick Cheney, model of modern meddling

The mega flap over the National Security Administration's electronic surveillance rages on this week. The chief leaker, Edward Snowden is hied away in Hong Kong, President Obama has assured the American people that he's "only do this to protect the people", which is apparently how most Americans see it. Civil libertarians are outraged, the Republican "gotcha" media overjoyed and as there has been relative peace post 9/11 on the homefront (plus the realization that "online privacy" is mythical in and of itself), this too shall pass.

Too bad that it will. Not just because government snooping (and its corporate twin) are an ugly intrusion but really because the underlying story--also the story of 9/11 itself--will fade. The actual cause of Middle Eastern nationalism and the terrorism that comes with it isn't that "Muslims are crazy" or "they don't know how to be free and we must show them" but is actually the ceaseless meddling in the affairs of these nations that has characterized US and the UK's dealings with same for 100 years.

Overthrowing popular regimes hostile to American interests like Iran, 1953 or propping up the Shah, Mubarak, Saddam (a former "ally") or Assad has created legions of pissed off Middle Easterners (that at various points admired the US as the #1 nation in the world). High unemployment among the young plus ceaseless anti-American propaganda from their state run media's is part of it, but were it not for a few incontrovertible facts--The US' automatic backing of Israel in all matters as well as fealty to the Saudi royal family's autocracy has convinced millions of people that America is no friend to them at all. 

Drone bombing ain't helping, either.

It isn't like they don't know why, either. Protecting the interests of petroleum companies has been priority #1--used to be called "protecting the oil supply" (the "Carter Doctrine"), but at this point, that is a major league load of bovine poop. The US gets less than 13% of the oil it uses from the Persian Gulf and is now a net exporter of petroleum. Therefore, the protection in question isn't for the US consumer or its security, but for oil company's revenues and profits--all subsidized by (you guessed it) American taxpayers.

Stop fucking meddling. Stop fucking meddling in their affairs--remove the US military from the Gulf (let the oil companies create their own security minus the military that's paid from our taxes), stop the bowing and scraping to Al Qaeda backing Saudis, stop reflexively assuming "Israel good, Arabs, bad" and acting accordingly and guess what? Out of sight, out of mind---the notion that "Muslims hate our way of life and want to wage a holy war against us" is belied by the simple fact that the world's largest Muslim nation has so far ignored most things American. "Live and let live" is the sanest philosophy one can embrace in one's personal life, why not in one's political life as well? 


Where both Europeans and Americans have been meddling for centuries.

Posted by Johnny Venom on Jun. 11, 2013 @ 7:20 am

Shouldn't you leave then?

Posted by Guest on Jun. 11, 2013 @ 8:45 am

I agree! Once we stop meddling in their affairs, then they can focus fully on the more serious business of stoning homosexuals and adulterous women.

Posted by Chromefields on Jun. 11, 2013 @ 7:28 am

stricter limits on free speech than the US. Ironic huh?

Posted by Guest on Jun. 11, 2013 @ 8:46 am

Jason Grant Garza here ... "Entre los individuos, como entre las naciones, el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz" Benito Juarez

So until this happens ... the state and corrupt will just continue. Don't expect the state to change ... if anything .. the releases show the lies, cover-up and deception sort of like what I have gone through telling the TRUTH against a corrupt and unaccountable system . Shall I show you what I receive in trying to CORRECT by filing COMPLAINTS and showing the RIGGED PROCEDURE Think BOY SCOUTS, ALTAR BOYS, WMD's ... What was the CONSEQUENCE for the complicit PLAYERS? What was the consequence for those involved in the HELICOPTER MURDERS? NONE, NADA, ZIP?

So mind you ... THEY were ONLY doing their job ... just like Cheney, Bush, Yoo and others.

I mean isn''t the PRIDE COMMITTEE by refusing Manning and having more marshals than their bylaws allow ... NOT" JUST DOING THEIR JOB" for their MASTERS?

Yes let the LIES, DECEPTION and GAMES continue ...

Posted by Jason Grant Garza on Jun. 11, 2013 @ 7:43 am

and invasive tax regime.

Or is that somehow different?

Posted by Guest on Jun. 11, 2013 @ 8:43 am

Well, Fuck Me, Dick Cheney is the president, when did that happen?

Posted by Really confused on Jun. 11, 2013 @ 12:08 pm

Overthrowing popular regimes hostile to American interests like Iran, 1953 or propping up the Shah, Mubarak, Saddam (a former "ally") or Assad has created legions of pissed off Middle Easterners (that at various points admired the US as the #1 nation in the world)."

Prescient, Johnny Angel. You've got good analysis

Posted by Adrian on Jun. 11, 2013 @ 10:07 pm

the actual poll.

I found it on this site:

Evidently people were asked the question with the presupposition that the program would be effective if used to stop terrorism. What would the answer have been if people were asked the same question but informed that he program might be used to prevent terrorism or might be used to crack down on peaceful dissent within the country from whichever groups were opposed to the dominant power structure?

By the way, I noticed that the writer in the piece I've linked to remarked on how there was a perfect reversal of a partisan nature with regard to snooping, citing 53% Republicans in favor vs. 41% Democrats before, but 53% Democrats in favor now vs 45% Republicans. Note that it doesn't reflect a perfect turnabout, but rather says that either the Democrats are more partisan in their thinking... or that Republicans are more in favor of state spying capacity. (I'll pick the latter.)

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