"Greyhound therapy" is wrong for Nevada, and San Francisco

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It’s horribly inhumane and indefensible for Nevada to ship its mentally ill homeless to San Francisco, and City Attorney Dennis Herrera is right to go after that state with a lawsuit aimed at changing that policy and recovering the city’s costs, which he discussed today in a press release and San Francisco Chronicle article.

But San Francisco should have greater moral authority to make this stand than it does, thanks to the Homeward Bound program started by then-Mayor Gavin Newsom and continued by Mayor Ed Lee, a program that gives local homeless individuals a one-way bus ticket out of town.

The Chronicle took pains to say how different San Francisco’s exportation of its homeless is from Nevada’s, noting that we make sure our homeless are stable enough to travel alone and that there’s someone waiting for them on the other side before we send them to the bus station.

Sure, that’s better, but the basic concept is the same and it’s consistent with San Francisco basic approach toward much of its homeless population, for whom the city intentionally limits shelter beds and makes it difficult to get one and treats the resulting street population as a law enforcement issue.

Newsom was elected on his Care Not Cash promise to provide shelter and social services to the homeless, and it certainly did get many people who needed it into supportive housing. But the actual homeless problem is far worse and more systemic than that program (or feel-good gimmicks like Project Homeless Connect) can really address.

San Francisco should be leading the way in calling for this country to address the root causes of homelessness, as well as the related problems of poverty, exploitation of workers and natural resources, and a wasteful economic system that is cooking the planet and its biodiversity.

Instead, we’re leading the way in pushing unsustainable, technology-fueled economic growth with no regard for the byproducts of wealth generation by the privileged few, whether it be giving our homeless one-way bus tickets out of town, forcing our workers and nonprofits to seek reasonable rents elsewhere, undermining hard-won social compromises, or missing our own greenhouse gas reduction goals (today's Examiner cover story).

We can — and we should — take greater responsibility for our city’s policies and prejudices and work to regain  the moral authority that we need to be an example for other cities and begin to advocate for needed reforms on the national and international levels.  

Comments

homeless to SF by giving them one-way bus tickets.

You can quibble about how moral that is but the real problem is quite simple - SF has a reputation for throwing money at it's homeless and that, along with our mild climate, makes it a near irresitable magnet for the homeless, the mentally ill, and a variety of other misfits and ne'er-do-well's.

The real solution will only come when we equalize our largesse towards the homeless with other locations, so that there is no longer an incentive to dump all the problem people on SF.

We are victims of our own compassionate sanctuary outlook.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 20, 2013 @ 10:33 am

Except you forget that SF ships out as many homeless as it takes in.

Plus, out of the 500 or so folks Nevada sent to Cali only 24 were sent to SF.

So basically your arguement that SF s a dumping ground for undesirables because SF is too generous with benefits, is full of holes.

Posted by pete moss on Aug. 21, 2013 @ 5:40 am

Nonsense. Most homeless in SF are from elsewhere.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 21, 2013 @ 5:57 am

no, the basic concept is not the same. just putting a mentally ill person on a bus to SF, with no medication, no family and no plan, as it is alleged that was done in NV, is obscene. SF's putting people on buses where there are people waiting for them, places to stay, and a plan for treatment is completely moral, IMO. One way for us to have less homeless people here in SF is to send them to a place where they'll have a home.

The SF budget has over $100M slated for homeless services. I'd say we have plenty of moral authority to call out NV on their bullshit, and kudos to Herrara and his team for the work they've done on this.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 20, 2013 @ 1:11 pm

like Nevada send their homeless and crazy people here?

And the answer is - because we take them and, by your own admission, spend a nine-figure sum on them.

So the question then becomes how we stop them? And since we do not have any jurisdiction over people in other states buying bus tickets for each other, all we can do is ensure that we are not an attractive destination for all the flotsam and jetsam of the nation.

We are victims of our own supposed "compassion". Great for other States and the crazies. Not so much for those of us who live here, have to put up with the streets stinking of piss, and who pay that 100 million.

Enough.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 20, 2013 @ 1:27 pm

San Francisco spends over $200,000,000 annually assisting a homeless population of around 6,000.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 20, 2013 @ 3:56 pm
Posted by Guest on Aug. 20, 2013 @ 4:07 pm

There once was a time long ago, a fabled golden time when the world looked up to San Francisco. This made Steven Jones proud, he could travel anywhere and say he was from San Francisco and people's eyes would light up and they would bow in front of Steven, this pleased Steven. Like most good progressives Steven took comfort in the fact that he's more morally pure than most people and his residency in San Francisco confirmed that for him. But it all started to go downhill when someone named "Gavin Newsom" came into the picture and a dark cloud came over Steven's life - he noticed saying he was from "San Francisco" no longer resulted in the moral authority to lecture others. This made Steven sad, so very sad.

All Steven is doing is trying to regain that moral superiority. You can assist him by not electing the wrong people and spending more money on the government. Only then can we be paramount as a city and a people.

Posted by Lucretia Snapples on Aug. 20, 2013 @ 9:24 pm

essay.

If we are just pure of heart and lead the way all others will follow suit.

I don't know how the lawsuit by that idiot Herrera will end up, but it's better money spent than much of the stuff that clown does.

Posted by Matlock on Aug. 20, 2013 @ 5:21 pm

Jason Grant Garza here ... What a BUNCH of TRIPE and MEANINGLESS words ... go to youtube and type in Jason Garza to see over 199 videos of DENIED MEDICAL CARE, a FALSE FRAUDULENT "Retraining Order" by DPH to circumvent the LAW with the aid and CONSENT of the Sheriff and SFPD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cP3jCmJFRo&list=TLDkda_alFVQE , then go to the videos to see the Sheriff's failure, the DA failure, the Mayor's Office on Disability failure, the Chief of Police failure, the Police Commission failure, the Office of Citizen's Complaint failure and then go to the CITY ATTORNEY videos where I specifically speak to him regarding the NEVADA patient dumping and NOTE I am escorted out as opposed to helped or ANSWERED.

Then go to the search box here at SF Bay Guardian and type in Jason Grant Garza here to see many many many comments over the years regarding the failed MEDICAL CARE and NO ENFORCEMENT andf you will see a recent article by Rebecca asking for "things to look into" ... I wrote as is shown in the comments .. ask me if I got a call or email. So this too is BS ... just another way to sell "print."

Will there be more in regard to this or medical in the future here in SF Bay Guardian ... yes, however, I will continue to point out the falsehoods, no help, etc.

I also wrote the staff at the governor's office to tell him about SF's UNCLEAN HANDS in regard to MEDICAL CARE, NO ENFORCEMENT, etc at mskinner@gov.nv.gov

And if you think I do not know about MEDICAL LAW or patient dumping ... look at this signed confession from SF where I was PATIENT DUMPED ... http://myownprivateguantanamo.com/settle1.html ... NOTE NO ONE from the CITY ATTORNEY , DPH nor COURTS have explained how they had this case thrown out of FEDERAL COURT with lies and fraud (C02-3485PJH) in 2003 only to sign the confession in 2007 with the Office of Inspector General admitting FAULT and GUILT. Was it a MEDICAL DECISION to LIE in FEDERAL COURT? The the VINDICATED INNOCENT VICTIM was left for DEAD and it has started again ...

Please note the videos of the CRIMES started August 15th 2012 ... it is now 8/21/13 ... see over 199 videos and my continuing ... do you need anymore to KNOW it is RIGGED and FALSE?

Keep drinking the KOOL AID and KNOW you are NEXT in these lies and false representations since the manifestations of caring concern and compassion have been shown for what they truly are by my videos ... SF and its staff HAVE NONE. Plenty of false meaningless words, twisting of reality and more HARM.

Posted by Jason Grant Garza on Aug. 21, 2013 @ 6:40 am

San Francisco throws money hand over fist at the homeless problem every year. It never seems to get better. To the contrary, we seem to have more homeless issues here than just about anywhere else. The dollars we throw at the problem just exacerbates the problem -- you're dreaming if you think people don't come here, or get sent here, specifically because of the "Homeless Inc." culture here.

Posted by The Commish on Aug. 21, 2013 @ 8:39 am

The homeless could consume all the money we have and still want more, while such largesse serves only to attract more and more of them to come here or be transported here.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 21, 2013 @ 9:48 am

The moneyed interests could consume all the money we have and still want more, while such largesse serves only to attract more and more of them to come here or be transported here.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 21, 2013 @ 10:07 am

It would make more sense just to round up the homeless and euthanize them. Then, we could stuff them and put them on street corners as edgy paeans to liberalism, as well as warnings to those who might become homeless that they'd be wise not to be homeless here.

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Posted by Rover on Dec. 25, 2013 @ 2:42 am

The practice, sometimes referred to as patient dumping or Greyhound therapy, has long been rumored as a way for other jurisdictions to transfer their mental health or homeless problems to more liberal enclaves like San Francisco.

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