SF water unaffected by wildfire – so far


The giant rim fire raging through Yosemite has tripled in size since Aug. 21, burning about 149,000 acres and approaching the vicinity of the Hetch Hetchy Reservoir, the source of San Francsico’s water supply, according to the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission.

In an update, the SFPUC noted that the city’s water system has not been impacted but is being closely monitored for changes to water quality.

“Currently, some ash has fallen onto the surface of the reservoir, but there has been no impact to the quality of water, which is being withdrawn from the reservoir at a depth of 260 feet,” The SFPUC noted in an update on Aug. 27. “All turbidity (the amount of suspended particles in the water) instrumentation continues to be within normal operating parameters.”

There has been no interruption to municipal electric service – although two hydroelectric powerhouses, Holm and Kirkwood, have been out of commission since last Monday due to the rim fire. Crews succeeded in making some repairs on Kirkwood Aug. 26 in preparation for power restoration.

The SFPUC has been making up the difference in power generation by tapping a power bank and making supplemental power purchases on the open market – a pricey alternative that's cost the city around $600,000 so far, according to an Aug. 26 update.

A video of the rim fire shot from a Cal FIRE plane. The blaze has increased considerably in size since Aug. 22 when this footage was captured.


You even resisted getting in a dig at PG&E, even though that would be a stretch even for SFBG.

Of course if the water goes off that is a city failure, and you'd never blame the city, right?

Posted by Guest on Aug. 27, 2013 @ 11:24 am

left behind are no doubt under strict instructions not to rock the boat while the captain is doing bad drugs in the desert and thereby indisposed.

Posted by anon on Aug. 27, 2013 @ 2:35 pm

Time to stock up on Brita pitchers.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 27, 2013 @ 11:59 am

with trolls

is that they feel inferior inside themselves

so no matter what an article or a responder says

they are inexorably driven to ridicule it

in order to convince themselves of the grasp-at-straws illusion that they are brilliant and everyone else is an idiot (their only hope of feeling important)

in the end, because it isn't true, it doesn't work

and inside they still feel inferior, and more so with every post as they watch themselves pathetically ridicule others

the ridicule then quietly turns and worms its way inward, anchoring the feelings of self inferiority even deeper.

so they must post these sad attempts at self aggrandizement over and over again, for eternity

like addicts

seeking fulfillment in a substance that will never bring it

because infinite holes cannot be filled...

Posted by anonymous x on Aug. 27, 2013 @ 12:21 pm
Posted by Guest on Aug. 27, 2013 @ 12:39 pm

it is perfectly sensible to post a lament about trolls

the webmaster might listen and change the policies

others might commiserate and help put pressure toward that end, and will at least feel better that they were able to vent about the stupidity of morons like you

some of the trolls might even realize they are being dicks and knock it off

yourself excepted of course, you are apparently too stupid and shallow to do anything but continue your pathetic addiction

which means you'll respond to this comment with yet another empty smart ass remark (but will nevertheless convince yourself that it is clever)

Posted by anonymous x on Aug. 27, 2013 @ 7:43 pm

on "trolls" then he would require signin, track IP addresses, utilize cookies and so on.

They don't, so clearly they value free speech more than you value never having to read something that you don't agree with.

Posted by anon on Aug. 28, 2013 @ 9:51 am

the IP of anyone who wins a debate against the bike nuts over there.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 28, 2013 @ 11:49 am

but one does not have to go to such extremes to ensure basic respect, and conversations that are based on a real quest for dialog, rather than a sick psychological need to constantly bicker with and insult people just for the sake of doing so

lots of blogs successfully set that balance

Posted by anonymous x on Aug. 28, 2013 @ 3:51 pm

What you call trolling, I call constructive criticism.

That's why a free speech approach is always better than taking sides.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 28, 2013 @ 4:06 pm

when papers and pamphlets were originated in early U.S. history they were incredibly subjective and ran the entire gamut of political and ideological views

in that time there was an incredible number and diversity of print news sources

now with the inception of the internet we can return to that model

and in any case, just about any fool can tell the difference between some twit troll who will make anything a mindless argument, and someone with an actual different view who is expressing it and seeking a real dialogue

this stuff is not rocket science

free speech is squashed when people feel so intimidated and/or turned off by trolls that they don't want to take part in the conversation

Posted by anonymous x on Aug. 28, 2013 @ 10:46 pm

Your assignation of "troll" is nothing more than an attempt to suppress free speech - something that the left has always enjoyed doing, as we have seen in almost every socialist nation.

Posted by anon on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 7:30 am

trolls have nothing to do with expressing dissenting views

they often masquerade as if they are doing so, but only in the shallowest of terms necessary to give themselves an excuse to launch abusive personal attacks

it is very simple to distinguish a troll from someone honestly putting forward a differing perspective

and the notion that it is some breach of free speech to shut abusive trolls down by cutting them off from posting, is roughly equivalent to stating it is against a man's free speech rights to stop him from beating his wife because he argues that the beating is a form of free expression

Posted by anonymous x on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 10:57 am

there, predictably. In fact, I find your personal attacks on other posters here to be far more sinister and trollish than those who come here to discuss the issues.

You're not discussing any issues here. You're just trying to shout down anyone who disagrees with the party line. And it is not working.

Posted by anon on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 11:14 am

please cut and paste in a reply anything i have written in an attempt to "shut down anyone who disagrees with the party line"

my only comments were to describe how much trolls suck and that in our current internet communications evolution it is perfectly legitimate for web masters and blog editors to cut off posters who are either being abusive or -even- expressing views that the editor feels are not serving the productive conversation that they intended to generate with the blog

and yes, that last statement means that in an internet world with a near infinitely diverse field of opportunities to speak, even ideological selectivity is ok, because those who are cut off can simply go to another forum and be heard

a perfect example of this is that if i was running a blog on the sport of tennis, i would rightly cut off anyone who strayed off the subject of tennis

the purpose of the guardian blogs is to stimulate debate around progressive issues

so it is even legit to cut off constant repetition of very basic and simple conservative or neoconservative ideas that everyone has already heard over and over again, ad infinitum

this is because it does not serve the blog's purpose any more than discussions of knitting techniques serve a dialog about tennis

Posted by anonymous x on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 11:54 am

OK, then my point has been won.

Did it ever occur to you that "progressive ideas" need to be road-tested in the real world? If you cannot even win the battle of ideas here, then you have no chance out there where the audience is much tougher.

Many progressives have given up here because their ideas didn't stand up. You rarely if ever hear from Marcos, Eddie, Greg and the dozen or so names that ChrisCraft posted with because they couldn't win debates here. Driving out the poorer posters helps the progressive cause.

SFBG, to their credit, do not support censorship and welcome a free and open marketplace of ideas. Why don't you? Scared?

Posted by Guest on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 12:07 pm

unfounded personal attacks and I realized I was wasting my time "debating" unethical commenters like you.

Your neo-liberal capitalist ideas have been road tested for the last two centuries and they have failed.

Posted by Eddie on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 12:57 pm

if i was the editor of the guardian political blog i would not in fact censor for ideology on its *own*

i would allow posts with even strongly differing and anti-progressive views as long as each post said something unique oriented on the *subject* at hand and was also respectful

i would delete all abusive posts, even from progressives, and i would also delete knee jerk neo-con posts that essentially say the same damned thing on every subject in a very simplistic broken record refrain, because such repetitive shallow conservative regurgitation (posted just for the sake of ridiculing liberals and progressives) doesn't serve any kind of intellectual discourse whatsoever, and just turns off readers

Posted by anonymous x on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 1:30 pm

Bravo! Now in limerick please.

Posted by GlenParkDaddy on Aug. 27, 2013 @ 10:34 pm
Posted by anon on Aug. 28, 2013 @ 9:52 am

Good news about the water supply. Bad news that the fire keeps growing. But what does this have to do with politics?

Posted by The Commish on Aug. 27, 2013 @ 2:10 pm

Unless they want to blame the republicans for global warming.

Posted by anon on Aug. 28, 2013 @ 9:53 am

Just to spare everyone else the effort.

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