Real tech worker says SF homeless "grotesque," "degenerates," "trash"

Photo by freelancer Aurelien Foucault

Just a day after a fake tech worker blew up the Internet with class hatred, an actual tech worker spewed hatred for real -- and it’s worse than anything that our political thespian had to say.

As first reported by tech blog Valleywag, AngelHack founder and CEO Greg Gopman posted this gem on his Facebook yesterday: 

Just got back to SF. I've traveled around the world and I gotta say there is nothing more grotesque than walking down market st in San Francisco. Why the heart of our city has to be overrun by crazy, homeless, drug dealers, dropouts, and trash I have no clue. Each time I pass it my love affair with SF dies a little.

He has since deleted the post and apologized, but it’s hard to come back from the rest of what he wrote: 

The difference is in other cosmopolitan cities, the lower part of society keep to themselves. They sell small trinkets, beg coyly, stay quiet, and generally stay out of your way. They realize it's a privilege to be in the civilized part of town and view themselves as guests. And that's okay. 

In downtown SF the degenerates gather like hyenas, spit, urinate, taunt you, sell drugs, get rowdy, they act like they own the center of the city. Like it's their place of leisure... In actuality it's the business district for one of the wealthiest cities in the USA. It a disgrace. I don't even feel safe walking down the sidewalk without planning out my walking path. 

You can preach compassion, equality, and be the biggest lover in the world, but there is an area of town for degenerates and an area of town for the working class. There is nothing positive gained from having them so close to us. It's a burden and a liability having them so close to us. Believe me, if they added the smallest iota of value I'd consider thinking different, but the crazy toothless lady who kicks everyone that gets too close to her cardboard box hasn't made anyone's life better in a while.

Emphasis added by Valleywag. The Internet machine didn’t take long in shaming him. Cue social media shaming in  3, 2, 1….

The plot thickens, though, as it appears AngelHack has a Twitter bot that scours the Internet for anyone writing about the company, and instantly retweets them. 

It’s already retweeted many of the hate tweets towards Gopman. His own company is throwing fuel in the flames of his Internet hate. 

This is his apology, written just this morning:

Last night, I made inappropriate comments about San Francisco and its less fortunate citizens on Market st. I'm really sorry for my comments. I trivialized the plight of those struggling to get by and I shouldn't have. I hope this thread can help start an open discussion on what changes we can make to fix these serious problems. Again, I am deeply sorry.

It’s this kind of class hatred from tech workers that made performances like that of union organizer Max Bell Alper yesterday totally believable, leading to one important question: Can you hack empathy? 


The cuts are necessary. We cannot afford 1960's style largesse.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 4:16 pm

We can afford 1960's largesse for weapons systems and war.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 5:13 pm

National security always comes first because, without that, there is nothing else.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 5:21 pm

The "war on terror" is a counter attack against a campaign of retaliation against the crime spree carried out by the national security state in the South Asian oil patch.

Posted by marcos on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 5:55 pm
Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 1:23 pm

Spain was attacked too. In response they threw out the government and stopped screwing with the middle east. Worked like a charm. Much cheaper than throwing money down the rathole of the military/police state. Without peace and justice, there's no security anyway.

Posted by Greg on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 7:00 pm

The US could not defend a warship that was out in the field, it could not defend its own military headquarters in its own capital, could not defend the business district of its financial center, and it has been mired in Afghanistan for twice as long as it took to defeat both Hitler and Tojo.

For a reprise, because physical terror is not sufficient to cow a population into submission, it gave Wall Street free license to produce, as well known communist Warren Buffet says, weapons of mass destruction in the from of hundreds of trillions of dollars in bogus derivatives.

We have met the enemy and it is you and this kleptocratic war criminal government that you champion.

Posted by marcos on Dec. 15, 2013 @ 9:59 am

His delivery is horrible, but there is truth in what you are saying.
A lot of the homeless in SF are literally rotting on the streets, and we have this horrible live and let live attitude about it.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 1:07 pm

Who hasn't walked through the mission and heard the silis talk about how they can't wait till the neighborhood improves. Who hasn't seen the class/ethnic cleansing going on at 16th and mission. What are those people supposed to do. sit all day alone in a tiny sro room that's the size of a closet for these nimby psudo-liberal transplants. This whole group of invaders has this I have money so I can do whatever I want entitlement attitude. Along with contempt for anyone who isn't one of them. They don't want the poor, old, or ugly upseting their shallow little lives of corporate politics and social climbing. I don't like the way that smells, or looks, it makes me uncomfortable and that is their reason for their hope and change.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 2:17 pm

Don't get me wrong. This guy is a douche and people like him are the worst. But "ethnic cleansing?" Seriously? I'm sure there are a lot of Bosnians who would object to your application of that term to income inequality and yuppie entitlement.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 7:14 pm

is more accurate.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 7:37 pm

"and it’s worse than anything that our political thespian had to say"

This isn't any justification for deception. One person doesn't equal a class, no matter how many phony "thespians" are planted. If you have an opinion of a class, say it and let others judge. At least this guy had the decency to say how he felt, rather than pretending to be a homeless person performing all of his stated prejudices to try to instill the idea that all homeless people are as he describes.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 2:37 pm

other than San Francisco. You should thank these people, they made your tax haven possible, along with access to lively arts and the best food scene in the country.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 3:01 pm
Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 3:32 pm

and scenery. We should thank them for that as well.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 3:50 pm

Gave this 'hack' the tax breaks that moved them into mid market in the first place...and so cheap access to SF good life....

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 8:56 pm

Wow - that wasn't very smart of them now was it?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 9:20 pm

Think he means the evergreen drive to gentrify mid-market, part of which would involve deleting the homeless population.

Replacing homeless with techites.

So in an indirect and unintentional way, homeless 'lobbied' for the tax breaks, just by existing.

Posted by Eddy Larkin on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 9:39 pm

Hateful human, expecting that the 'little people' know their places…..

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 3:04 pm

What he said is true, I don't know anyone that disagrees with what he said. There are different types of homeless, some people due to some type of misfortune are temporary down and out, but are trying every thing to get back up, assist them by all means, The crazies Laura's law needs to be applied to them. Street people drug sellers, bums and the likes, put them on a bus and sent them out of town.

Posted by Truth on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 3:05 pm

Where extactly will these people get bused to? Would that just be doing what Nevada has illegally been doing for years to make things worse for SF?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 3:44 pm

With $50 in their pocket.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 4:10 pm

How bout Nevada ?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 19, 2013 @ 8:26 am
Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 3:48 pm

"Each time I pass it my love affair with SF dies a little."

Why not move to Oakland, Daly City or Aspen? There are trains, planes and buses leaving daily. There's nothing stopping you from leaving San Francisco, is there?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 4:01 pm

vast underclass of people to squat here, and there isn't nearly enough outrage than there should be.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 4:19 pm

If we wants to see where the trash is, he should just look in the mirror.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 4:16 pm


If HE wants to see where the trash is, HE should just look in the mirror.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 4:28 pm

No living being is trash. Including him.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 4:52 pm

Ludicrous! Many "living beings" are absolute trash, you just choose to live in Denial about it. Many corporatist politicians are the first to come to mind when I hear the word trash, considering their disgusting policies in giving more and more to the "haves" and taking more and more away from the "have-nots."

For your search engine:

Democratic, Republican negotiators reach agreement on austerity budget


Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 9:26 pm

Wait til his little start-up crashes and burns next year.

See how cocky he is then.

Posted by Eastside Clyde Townsend on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 4:49 pm

honestly expressing their opinion than i am about the rather obvious and commonly-held opinion that the homeless present a rather unpleasant image of themselves.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 5:16 pm

This guy has the influence ($) to start something really scary.

Street sweeps, internment camps, involuntary therapy, any manner of 'cleansing' programs that would quickly degenerate, become corrupt an cruel.

Posted by Varney Brannan on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 6:08 pm
Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 6:28 pm

Until it happened to you, of course.

Posted by Scott Page on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 6:41 pm

But it won't since I'm not a pimp or a prossie, nor a drug dealer or criminal. If you're one of those you should be rounded up. Prossies can be rehabilitated, the others can be dumped off the Farallons to be consumed by great white sharks while ticket-buying tourists cheer lustily from specially-chartered tour boats.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 7:26 pm


That's quite a fantasy you've got there, Guest.

You must read Penthouse Letters. That's the only place I've ever known the term 'prossie' used.

Anyway I'm sure there's some vice you indulge in that could get you a ticket on that chum boat.

Or maybe you would just be in the wrong place at the wrong time when a roundup went down.

Wouldn't that be ironic, or something?

Posted by Eddy Larkin on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 8:39 pm

I'm Australian - prossie is our term for what is colloquially known as a "prostitute" in other English-speaking countries.

Explain this "Penthouse Letters" of which you speak.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 9:27 pm

Your kind is not welcome here. You need to move to Australia. Or Oakland. Or Aspen. Or something.

Posted by GlenParkDaddy on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 5:35 pm

not "prossie" but maybe that's an English English versus American English thing.

His kind? Are you stereotyping people based on ethnicity? how did that work out for the KKK?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 6:02 pm

Australian is an ethnicity?

I wrote for Penthouse Letters, back before the internet.

I'm sure there's an on-line version floating around, nowadays.

You could, uh, like, Google it.

Posted by Jerrold Toland on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 8:50 pm

Oh there you go again off the latch with yet another wild, outrageous, looney episode and always hateful script. You haven't had that checked out yet? Pretending to be something you're not: A Classist Bitch. Generic trash like yourself would be "cleansed" along with anyone else, no matter how much you promise them that you'll keep your head locked up in the upper colon of those you pretend to be like (i.e. the "upper-crust, nose-in-the-air, bourgeois elite").


Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 10:49 pm

As far as I can tell, his piece of shit company produces nothing of value. Seems to be just a pyramid scheme for gullible investors.

Incidentally, he isn't the first technodouche to crash and burn this way (see Peter Shih). Days later he was whining on the nets for people to leave his company out of it. Fuck that shit. These guys deserve to have their stupid companies crash and burn. It'll teach them a valuable lesson in humility.

Posted by Greg on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 7:05 pm

This man spoke the truth as he saw it, and it is an uncomfortable truth about a significant portion of the people living their lives streetside in the Tenderloin/Mid-Market area. One can have these feelings of disgust and despair at times and other times feel compassion and even hope. I think this man is simply human. The challenge is continuous, however, in moving from feelings and reactions to support for policies and actions to ameliorate the situation in this part of town. So far, nobody has found a silver bullet -- whether that involves authoritarian or social welfare measures. Perhaps we can use this public airing to find out what works at least partially and what measures are largely ineffective. The situation as it is appalls anyone not closing himself/herself off from it.

Posted by voltairesmistress on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 5:16 pm

Sf has a homeless problem because SF is a relatively desirable destination for homeless folks from elsewhere, because of the climate, the services and the general "tolerance" exhibited here.

SF's homeless problem will only be solved when life is harder in Sf for the homeless than it is in other cities.

And when other cities do not keep sending their homeless, drug addicts and mentally ill residents here.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 5:28 pm

You keep spouting the same bullshit, Guest.

For your information San Jose has four times the homeless population of SF.

Santa Clara county as a whole dwarfs anything SF has. Of course Santa Clara is much bigger.

But the point is: SF IS NOT a mecca for homeless.

I'm getting tired of trying to educate your thickheaded self on this issue.

Posted by Randall Chenery on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 6:15 pm

What statistics are you relying on for this info? I had no idea and would be interested to learn more.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 9:22 pm
Posted by Guest on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 9:19 am

"I'm getting tired of trying to educate your thickheaded self on this issue. "

Yeah don't waste your time, Randall. I gave up responding to that useless piece some time ago. The #1 requirement for being a troll = ignorance. That "Guest" troll relies strictly on willful-ignorance as demonstrated by its reams and reams of ignorant and hateful posts on this site over the years. Don't waste your time giving it anything, because anything you give it, it will dispute and after you prove it wrong, it will go off on some other topic as if it wasn't wrong. It is a nut in desperate need of attention. That useless stagnates on this site day and night.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 11:02 pm

Santa Clara County - 7,631
San Francisco County - 5,383

In spite of the fact that Santa Clara county has like 2X the population.

Posted by GlenParkDaddy on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 5:57 pm

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