Real tech worker says SF homeless "grotesque," "degenerates," "trash"

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Just a day after a fake tech worker blew up the Internet with class hatred, an actual tech worker spewed hatred for real -- and it’s worse than anything that our political thespian had to say.

As first reported by tech blog Valleywag, AngelHack founder and CEO Greg Gopman posted this gem on his Facebook yesterday: 

Just got back to SF. I've traveled around the world and I gotta say there is nothing more grotesque than walking down market st in San Francisco. Why the heart of our city has to be overrun by crazy, homeless, drug dealers, dropouts, and trash I have no clue. Each time I pass it my love affair with SF dies a little.

He has since deleted the post and apologized, but it’s hard to come back from the rest of what he wrote: 

The difference is in other cosmopolitan cities, the lower part of society keep to themselves. They sell small trinkets, beg coyly, stay quiet, and generally stay out of your way. They realize it's a privilege to be in the civilized part of town and view themselves as guests. And that's okay. 

In downtown SF the degenerates gather like hyenas, spit, urinate, taunt you, sell drugs, get rowdy, they act like they own the center of the city. Like it's their place of leisure... In actuality it's the business district for one of the wealthiest cities in the USA. It a disgrace. I don't even feel safe walking down the sidewalk without planning out my walking path. 

You can preach compassion, equality, and be the biggest lover in the world, but there is an area of town for degenerates and an area of town for the working class. There is nothing positive gained from having them so close to us. It's a burden and a liability having them so close to us. Believe me, if they added the smallest iota of value I'd consider thinking different, but the crazy toothless lady who kicks everyone that gets too close to her cardboard box hasn't made anyone's life better in a while.

Emphasis added by Valleywag. The Internet machine didn’t take long in shaming him. Cue social media shaming in  3, 2, 1….

The plot thickens, though, as it appears AngelHack has a Twitter bot that scours the Internet for anyone writing about the company, and instantly retweets them. 

It’s already retweeted many of the hate tweets towards Gopman. His own company is throwing fuel in the flames of his Internet hate. 

This is his apology, written just this morning:

Last night, I made inappropriate comments about San Francisco and its less fortunate citizens on Market st. I'm really sorry for my comments. I trivialized the plight of those struggling to get by and I shouldn't have. I hope this thread can help start an open discussion on what changes we can make to fix these serious problems. Again, I am deeply sorry.

It’s this kind of class hatred from tech workers that made performances like that of union organizer Max Bell Alper yesterday totally believable, leading to one important question: Can you hack empathy? 

Comments

in SF is higher and the homeless have a higher and more obnoxious profile here.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 6:28 pm

Headcounts of homeless are never accurate.

But if you go by St James park just north of downtown SJ, or stroll along the Guadalupe river bikepath, or sit out by the Shark Tank, you will see a homeless concentration beyond anything in SF.

The homeless population of SF is actually declining according to people who run various soup kitchens in the City.

Posted by Randall Chenery on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 8:57 pm

homelessness in San Jose. The author actually interviewed homeless people. Real journalism.

http://www.alternet.org/hard-times-usa/jungle-thousands-homeless-people-...?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 16, 2013 @ 1:30 pm

Here's what works: If you can't handle homeless people go live in a sanitized suburb.

The Big City ain't all pretty.

Posted by Davis Jackson on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 6:47 pm

What a mealy-mouthed comment. Jesus, find a spine somewhere. Stand for something! Wrong is wrong, period. Stop defending scum of the earth people.

"I think this man is simply human."

I'm "simply human" too but I don't hate the homeless like this piece of trash does. I have compassion for the homeless. I can't imagine what they've been going through these last past nights in extreme cold temperatures. I'm cold in my tiny apartment. I can't imagine how they must feel. I heard that 7 homeless people have died because of the temperatures but I don't see the bourgeois elite corporatist politicians concerned about that. If I were mayor, I'd open up the Muni metro (which is warm) and have them sleep down there overnight. What would be wrong with that? There's nothing they can harm down there.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 7:26 pm

I think this septic man is very representative of The Classist, Ageist, Anti-Homeless, Hallowed, Sacrosanct, Sanctimonious, Parasitic and Predatory Tech Surveillance-State Industrial Complex (a.k.a. TIC) who bum millions of dollars of corporate welfare off the city of San Francisco through bourgeois elite parasitic corporatist conservative politicians.

This tech guy who seems to think he's better than anyone else is clearly classist. Classism is a brainwashed sickness (just like being brainwashed to be anti-ethnic or anti-gay), as to examples. The sickness is learned in other words. He has shown himself for who and what he is: Tech Scum. Classism and ageism does seem to be very entrenched in the Tech Surveillance-State Industrial Complex.

Related (Ageism in the TIC):

"Despite this obvious benefit of seasoned workers, the subject of ageism came up again this summer, when a survey of successful technology companies found that they were young -- very young. PayScale looked at the median age of 32 technology companies, and found that just six of them had a median age greater than 35 years old, reports the New York Times. “Eight of the companies, the study said, had median employee age of 30 or younger.” In comparison, the Times reported, the median age of the American worker was 42.3 years old.

The companies with the oldest workers? Hewlett – Packard (41), I.B.M. Global Services (38), Oracle (38), Nokia(36), Dell (37) and Sony (36). The youngest? Epic Games (26); Facebook (28); Zynga (28); Google (29); and AOL, Blizzard Entertainment, InfoSys, and Monster.com (all 30). Notes the Times, “According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only shoe stores and restaurants have workers with a median age less than 30.”

The article title for your non-tracking DuckDuckGo search engine:

Why the Tech Industry Needs to Deal With Its Ageism Problem

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 6:55 pm

Gee - wonder why none of the tech giants you loath have given you a job yet?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 7:21 pm

Why isn't the Department of Justice investigating these tech companies for age discrimination which the tech companies are obviously engaging in? Or is age discrimination completely acceptable in this sector?

Posted by GuestInTheCastro on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 11:22 pm

companies hire the most tech savvy people who tend to be younger. They are only discriminating against uselessness.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 1:21 pm

people. 50% of the population is poor or nearly poor. 35% live paycheck to paycheck.

Reality can be ugly. This Gopman character can't face it without unmasking his own internal ugliness.

Like Peter Shih's before him, his attitude was probably going to be bad PR for his funders so he backpeddled. Look for him to find a photo op at a Food Bank or St. Anthony's.

He seems experienced at finding excuses. From his Linkedin page:
"It was on its way to be a $1,000,000 business, but as fate would have it, I chose partners poorly, and greed ended up destroying things as the money started to pile up."

http://www.linkedin.com/in/ggopman

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 7:02 pm

Agreed.

"Look for him to find a photo op at a Food Bank or St. Anthony's."

Yes, exactly. Very predictable. That's what these corporatist parasites do in their attempt to change their despicable image.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 7:16 pm

what exactly do you mean by "corporatist parasite"? What you are saying doesn't make sense in 2013. The Iron curtain has collapsed. China is capitalist. Only Cuba and North Korea are left to defend the communist pipe dream. Good luck with your revolution. Now are you done with my latte already?

Posted by Usual Guest on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 11:55 am

That is a fact that cannot be disputed. They are the corporate parasites

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 7:33 am

something for nothing. And because of a failure of regulation, i.e. politicians.

For a mess that big, everyone had to screw up.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 7:39 am

The financial industry, speculators, and the real estate industry are to blame for the Mortgage Crisis, Sub-Prime, etc...

Consumers do not have equal blame with professionals whose job it is to create those toxic derivatives and loans. Banks are responsible for approving loans... or else they do not deserve (even more so) the high interest payments that they get paid on these long term mortgages.

"It's everyone's fault" means it's nobody's fault -- is a carefully crafted meme that's been overused by the neocons and Wall Street. "everybody thought they knew that Saddam had WMD", "Mistakes were made" (removing the "who made" from "mistake")

Blaming borrowers was a distraction that put easy scapegoats within reach of the angry masses. It's the same thing with blaming techies for what the real estate industry is doing by raising rents and evicting people.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 10:55 am

problems with debt before and struggled with financial stability. The brokers could not have sold any toxic loans without a large underclass of financial illiterates who wanted something for nothihg.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 1:25 pm

Consumers did not push for banking deregulation. Wall Street did and got it passed and then proceeded to screw people. You are clueless if you think consumers are the real problem here. That's like blaming an 8 year old for getting drunk because the liquor industry lobbied and passed a lower drinking age.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 3:53 pm

when taking on 125% LTV, neg-am, interest-onlly, non-doc loans.

Anyone borrowing ten times their annual income should have known better. Likewise those homeowners who repeatedly took out cash-out refi's.

The bankers just gave the dumb punters what they wanted.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 4:07 pm

"The bankers just gave the dumb punters what they wanted." -- if that were true, then the bankers are fraudulent in their fiduciary responsibilities with regard to managing the money of their depositors and investors.

If some "dumb punter" walks into a bank and asks for a billion dollars in cash as a loan, and the bank manager gives it to him/her, then the bank manager failed his/her professional responsibility to manage that money.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 4:27 pm

when the matter went to trial, i have seen no evidence that banks are guilty of anything other than perhaps trying a little too hard to give their customers what they wanted.

And insofar as the banks trusted their customers too much, they lost money, so that is their lookout.

Anyway, it's old news, and you should move on. Aren't we all supposed to hate tech workers this year?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 4:47 pm

You need to read up on the news and get informed before you make outrageous claims like that. Banks caused the crisis not consumers.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/dealbook/2013/12/12/bank-of-america-to-p...

Posted by Guest on Dec. 15, 2013 @ 8:26 am

You ignorant fools will always be losers. I bought 3 more properties JUST BECAUSE the recession made it possible for me to get them for a HUGE discount. If you have brains you can profit from any situation stupid fools....If you don't you can whine like little babies.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 17, 2013 @ 9:30 am

The internet allows every half-thought to be expressed; every intellectual fart to be expressed; every thoughtless whim. This is only one instance. For the past year, the NRA gun nut psychos have posted cruel, thoughtless, vicious, mean-spirited taunts at the victims of the Newtown tragedy. They have expressed a level of pathology suitable to the Pelican Bay Prison inmate. Individuals have set up multiple troll profiles to repeat this garage ad nauseum.

This guy has expressed a hatefullness toward a segment of society that comes right out of the Nazi playbook. Demonize a segment of society, and then exterminate what is demonized.

The NRA gun nut psychos post thoughtless garbage, insensitive garbage under the guise of handles that are similar in nature to the hoods of the Ku Klux Klan. Say hateful, stupid, mean things while hiding under the hood of a meaningless handle.

Posted by StevenTorrey on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 9:07 pm

"The internet allows every half-thought to be expressed; every intellectual fart to be expressed; every thoughtless whim. ....Say hateful, stupid, mean things while hiding under the hood of a meaningless handle."--- StevenTorrey

Yeah well, who exactly is "StevenTorrey?" It's a meaningless handle. Not exactly sure how to interpret your overall comment, BUT, were you referring to your own comment when you wrote all that? YOU are on here too.

This is a guess on my part, but I suspect you don't like the criticism expressed herein of The Classist, Ageist, Anti-Homeless, HALLOWED, SACROSANCT, Sanctimonious, Parasitic and Predatory Tech Surveillance-State Industrial Complex (TIC). The truth is that their bourgeois-elite parasitic corporatist conservative politicians have generously given and continue to give the TIC corporate welfare from the city in the name of millions of dollars. Meanwhile, the TIC contributes little or nothing to San Francisco while it smugly and arrogantly ravages it and hates on its citizens (in this particular case, the homeless). And if you don't have a major problem with that, then we come from two directly opposite ideologies.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 11, 2013 @ 9:59 pm

"Guest" sounds more real than 'StevenTorrey'--- Clearly, what you have here is a failure to think thoroughly before typing. Now, while your mama is willing to overlook you obvious intellectual capacities--the rest of us find it downright annoying and jejune...

I appreciate your rant--sort of--against the technocracy that allows for invasive surveillance worthy of a police state... That is now what the topic ot the article was about. The topic of the article was about a member of that technocracy writing what essentially amounted to hate speech. Replace the word 'homeless' with Blacks, Japanese, Homeless, Handicapped, Asian, etc--and it becomes recognized for the hate speech it is.

Now--then--'guest' (If that is your 'real' name) try to focus and stay on topic.

Posted by StevenTorrey on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 8:29 am

"The topic of the article was about a member of that technocracy writing what essentially amounted to hate speech. Replace the word 'homeless' with Blacks, Japanese, Homeless, Handicapped, Asian, etc--and it becomes recognized for the hate speech it is."

Why didn't you just say that to begin with rather than all that other stuff? No one can read your mind, dude. I had to read your comment 3 TIMES to TRY TO UNDERSTAND what the hell you were getting at. Then you go off on someone else here and lecture them for not getting it. Geeeez. Take your own advice sometime.

Posted by GuestInTheCastro on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 4:18 pm
Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 7:40 am

Is inciting hate speak?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 15, 2013 @ 8:26 am

people come from other areas of the country and bring their values with them?

Is the progressive issue that someone comes to San Francisco and is shrill and has entitlement issues?

Is the progressive issue that people come to the San Francisco and have a disdain for the people already here?

Are progressives complaining that the next wave acts like them?

Posted by Guest on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 9:00 am

The short answer is "No"! While his comments were certain to rile the feathers of the crunchy bleeding hearts of the city, but the fact remains that his depictions of mid-Market St are spot on accurate. Most cities typically have a large section that is blighted and home to the poor and homeless. Not SF. The city peppered itself with projects all over. All but the Potrero Hill projects have been replace by slightly nicer Section 8 housing. They are now run down developments because you can't just fix the problem of blight by re-housing unsophisticated people who aren't accustomed to nicer home environments and expect them to treat their new homes with respect. You have to teach people how to better their lives. Those who have been not been fortunate to burden the taxpayers with their subsidized pads outfitted with flat screen TVs, rolling in Escalades, and talking on their smart phones are left to languish on the streets where they harass passersby. They beg for money (while wearing the latest Nike shoes) and taunt people who don't give them any. They openly shoot up or smoke crack, vomit, urinate/defecate, sleep, and loiter like packs of roving animals intimidating anyone who crosses their path.

This scene is not confined to just the mid-Market area, but all across the city. People want to cry about how the 'system' has failed these people, but the truth is that people will do little to help these wretches pull themselves up. Most of the people who cry about the injustices do so out of guilt that it's what you're supposed to feel, but don't actually do anything to make it better. They want the city to fix it all for them and gripe when it isn't done the way they would have allegedly done it. I applaud Gopman for having the balls to be honest about a very real problem and say what needs to be said to wake people up.

Posted by IchBinG on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 9:48 am

He wants to segregate people by economic class and bus people in "lower" classes out of town. That would be returning to Jim Crow for the 1940's. The fact that you fail to see that is sad.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 9:41 pm

They already are. Capitalism inevitably leads to a massive wealth divide. When your country doesn't really have any safety blanket to speak of, that just compounds the problem.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 28, 2013 @ 3:20 pm

In Aspen, the homeless are ground up, shaped into patties, and served to the poor. Everybody wins.

Posted by Chromefields on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 11:39 am

I've heard the original fillings for dim sum were 'short pork'.

Posted by Binky Portugal on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 10:16 am

Soylent Green ! The solution !

Posted by Guest on Dec. 17, 2013 @ 9:26 am

let's see who will put his money where his mouth is and will provide shelter in his own home in the holidays.

What do I hear? Crickets?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

The hypocrites are very easy at pointing fingers but acts speak louder than words.

Posted by Usual Guest on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 11:43 am

That people who are not what he is are somehow 'guests' in their own neighborhoods. His suggestion that poor and working class people in other places 'know their place' is scary. Really??? Know our place? Good luck with that. The people he rails against have been living in mid-market for decades. If his delicate sensibilities, and those of his friends are offended- they are free to find somewhere more suitable.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 11:48 am

Those are the points that everyone who agrees with him seem to miss.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 13, 2013 @ 3:47 pm

There are probably more homeless advocates than actual homeless.

Therefore, all they need is purchase a cot, a comforter, some linens, put it in a corner of their living room and welcome a homeless person into their home.

Easy fix.

Posted by Usual Guest on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 11:50 am

Since when are CEOs and entrepreneurs "tech workers?"

Posted by marcos on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 12:10 pm

CEO's who came up through Tech than other businesses, but it's not strictly necessary.

A better question, however, is why it matters what some CEO says when he is expressing a private opinion about a matter unrelated to his job?

I cannot help feeling that Steven is just throwing this out to try and deflect attention from his appalling gaffe on Monday.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 12, 2013 @ 12:47 pm

This guy is not a "worker" the Guardian should correct the headline.

Posted by GlenParkDaddy on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 6:05 pm

has a boss or a client - either way someone who tells you what to do.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 6:26 pm

You have nothing to lose but your chains.

Posted by GlenParkDaddy on Dec. 15, 2013 @ 10:50 am

GPD, the progressive propaganda model sees no gray areas, either you are 100% on the side of immigrants, people of color and the poor as measured by doing what the advocates demand without question or you are evil.

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Posted by mary on Dec. 14, 2013 @ 4:23 pm

What i'd like to know is what those tech workers do either at work or in their spare time if they have any that's of any social value whatsoever.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 17, 2013 @ 9:54 am

No one has a right to live in the most expensive city in the US. If they can't afford to live here, they should leave. The filth we all endure is disgusting.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 18, 2013 @ 10:18 am

I don't believe it's right to have any expectations for any other person unless that person is making an offensive effort to harm you. We are all individuals, we should be able to live any way we want so long as that way of life is not harmful to others. If someone asks you for money, you can answer no, or tell them you don't have anything. Anyone can speak to anyone else in any manner they like. It's another story if they jump on you or grab onto you.

Everyone should be free to live the life they chose.

Posted by Mike Bailey on Dec. 28, 2013 @ 10:20 am

Put your money where your mouth is. Help fix the problem quit whinnying about it.

Posted by Guest on Dec. 28, 2013 @ 11:49 am

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